12-18-2014, 07:07 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Why?
What is the point?
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Captain James P. DeCOSTE, CD, 18 Sep 1993
Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Just ignore me...I'm in a mood today.
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12-18-2014, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Why?
What is the point?
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What is the point of what?
Who are you talking to?
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12-18-2014, 09:36 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Why?
What is the point?
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It allows the "banned" poster to continue posting without him effectively knowing he's banned. I'll let you figure out the benefits. Tend to doubt your sincerity whenever you make these totally glib "why" replies.
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12-18-2014, 09:47 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
It allows the "banned" poster to continue posting without him effectively knowing he's banned. I'll let you figure out the benefits. Tend to doubt your sincerity whenever you make these totally glib "why" replies.
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Yes I understand that it allows the "banned" poster to continue posting (you explained that in your OP).
I can't figure our the benefits. You clearly believe there are some and I would like to hear what you believe they are.
I don't see the point to be honest.
Regarding you perception of the glibness of my comment, there is none. It is a sincere question.
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Captain James P. DeCOSTE, CD, 18 Sep 1993
Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Just ignore me...I'm in a mood today.
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12-18-2014, 09:58 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Whenever you post the why reply it makes me feel like I'm explaining something to a child.
It allows a disruptive poster to continue posting without making any actual disruptions. Judging by the amount of "Lifetime Suspensions" we've seen over the past week, and how obvious it was some of those were returning posters this would allow a guy like Read Only (moon) to continue posting. They'd be blissfully unaware no one is being affected by their annoying posts.
Eventually they might get onto it, but not right away. Look at the situation on the board this week with DOOM, it's a tricky situation. He really wasn't doing anything against the rules, posting an opinion ad nauseam ins't an infraction but the way he was doing it was obviously overly disruptive to the board. A shadowban would let the moderators ban him for a month, whatever, and allow him to continue posting but give the board a cool down from his a-hole behaviour.
I've seen it used well on other boards.
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12-18-2014, 10:07 AM
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#7
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Whenever you post the why reply it makes me feel like I'm explaining something to a child.
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Yeah that confirms my opinion of you.
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It allows a disruptive poster to continue posting without making any actual disruptions. Judging by the amount of "Lifetime Suspensions" we've seen over the past week, and how obvious it was some of those were returning posters this would allow a guy like Read Only (moon) to continue posting. They'd be blissfully unaware no one is being affected by their annoying posts.
Eventually they might get onto it, but not right away. Look at the situation on the board this week with DOOM, it's a tricky situation. He really wasn't doing anything against the rules, posting an opinion ad nauseam ins't an infraction but the way he was doing it was obviously overly disruptive to the board. A shadowban would let the moderators ban him for a month, whatever, and allow him to continue posting but give the board a cool down from his a-hole behaviour.
I've seen it used well on other boards
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I don't see the advantage. If the individual's actions are such that they warrent more than a suspension, just ban them.
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Captain James P. DeCOSTE, CD, 18 Sep 1993
Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliver
Just ignore me...I'm in a mood today.
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12-18-2014, 10:17 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I don't see the advantage. If the individual's actions are such that they warrent more than a suspension, just ban them.
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Good, now we can move on and allow others to add to the thread.
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12-18-2014, 10:28 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Good, now we can move on and allow others to add to the thread.
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have you ever thought about ignoring trouble makers and just enjoying the forums otherwise?
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12-18-2014, 10:30 AM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resurrection
have you ever thought about ignoring trouble makers and just enjoying the forums otherwise?
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Are you implying I am a trouble maker?
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Captain James P. DeCOSTE, CD, 18 Sep 1993
Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliver
Just ignore me...I'm in a mood today.
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12-18-2014, 10:32 AM
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#11
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Are you implying I am a trouble maker?
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no. that was a direct comment to mastodon. he just seems really invested in this banning stuff.
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12-18-2014, 10:39 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Resurrection
no. that was a direct comment to mastodon. he just seems really invested in this banning stuff.
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If you want to debate about me personally, PM me, don't bring the thread off track this quickly.
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12-18-2014, 11:08 AM
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#13
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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I think what you are describing is or was called Tachy Goes To Coventry - or Global Ignore. I believe there's also something called Troll Hack. With Troll Hack they would see periods of slowness, non responsiveness, 404 pages, posts won't go through, etc. The site sort of works, sometimes, but mostly it's like they're stuck in a loop of just not quite staying online long enough to actually do anything. It's been a while since I saw the inside of a vB admin panel though so who knows what subsequent upgrades have kept or dumped.
ETA: anyone can have a look at the inside of a vBulletin admin panel at any time. vBulletin allows for trial accounts where you can sign up for 72 hours to have a poke around their system to see if you want to use vBulletin or not. You can see anything usable for troll control, member features, etc.
Last edited by Minnie; 12-18-2014 at 11:12 AM.
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12-18-2014, 12:40 PM
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#14
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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12-19-2014, 09:49 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Captain James P. DeCOSTE, CD, 18 Sep 1993
Corporal Jean-Marc H. BECHARD, 6 Aug 1993
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliver
Just ignore me...I'm in a mood today.
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12-23-2014, 04:20 PM
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Franchise Player
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There has been lots of lifetime suspensions recently?
What threads and which posters?
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12-24-2014, 06:54 PM
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albertGQ
There has been lots of lifetime suspensions recently?
What threads and which posters?
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Let's just say the losing streak affected more than the team on the ice.
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You’re just old hate balls.
--Funniest mod complaint in CP history.
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12-24-2014, 07:51 PM
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#18
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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I see the point is basically for the forum to pull the "fade away" on a banned user, and the assumption is that they get bored, move on. Sounds like forcing a global ignore list onto all of the users in good standing, where the banned user is simply put onto everybody's ignore list. Or only let banned users can see each other's posts.
But... it seems like this would fall apart if they're PM'ing and not getting responses, or they browse the forum as a guest and don't see their posts anywhere? I don't always log in when I am reading the forums, so how would it differentiate between logged-in me, and not logged-in me from another computer? Calgarypuck would have to be set up to not disallow guests from reading the forums.
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