2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Hunter7

Snow is the same GM who got Boychuk for two 2nd rounders+ a conditional 3rd that he did not have to give up.
He got Leddy for a good prospect and sweeteners.
He turned a struggling Reinhart into the Barzal and Beauvillier at last summer's draft.
I have no doubt that Snow will get very good value for Hamonic, even if that means Hamonic ends up somewhere outside Western Canada.

So basically he needs to trade with Chia.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by #-3

With Calgary/Edmonton the difference is 10 direct flights to Winnipeg/day.

From the majority of NHL cities that number is 0

So what?

Is Hamonic going to fly home to Winnipeg after practice everyday?



How often do NHLers get more then one day off in a row without a practice/game/travel/team function?

I don't think its very often at all. Probably once or twice a month at most. He's really not gaining anything going to Calgary/Edmonton if he wants to be close to home. Toronto or Montreal and a handful of US cities would work just as well.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

So what?

Is Hamonic going to fly home to Winnipeg after practice everyday?



How often do NHLers get more then one day off in a row without a practice/game/travel/team function?

I don't think its very often at all. Probably once or twice a month at most. He's really not gaining anything going to Calgary/Edmonton if he wants to be close to home. Toronto or Montreal and a handful of US cities would work just as well.

There's a really big difference between a flight that remains inside of Canada and 1 that doesn't. Even if you have your Nexus card. But ya really I think it's the Jets or bust if it comes completely down to the players happiness.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

So what?

Is Hamonic going to fly home to Winnipeg after practice everyday?



How often do NHLers get more then one day off in a row without a practice/game/travel/team function?

I don't think its very often at all. Probably once or twice a month at most. He's really not gaining anything going to Calgary/Edmonton if he wants to be close to home. Toronto or Montreal and a handful of US cities would work just as well.

You're looking at it from the wrong angle.

If he is at least closer geographically, then it makes it faster and often more economical for family to come and visit him and they can probably stay longer.

[Hunter7]

Originally Posted by Jacks

So basically he needs to trade with Chia.

The press is saying Chia has been very aggressive in pushing for a trade.
His 30th place team needs Hamonic more then any of the teams shopping for D.

Problem for Chia is that the isles do not want the soft forwards Chia is pushing, Yak and Eberle. And Schultz is too big a downgrade, has not shown enough in his development to make the isles see him as anything special.

[bubbsy]

Eklund blog stating leafs may be weighing options on parting with bernier....

Seems like the right kind of gamble to me.

[sharkov]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Eklund blog stating leafs may be weighing options on parting with bernier....

Seems like the right kind of gamble to me.

That $4 million a year contract though.........

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by sharkov

That $4 million a year contract though.........

8.3 mill coming off books at the goalie position at the end of season

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

8.3 mill coming off books at the goalie position at the end of season

And someone needs to play g next year. Classic case of buying low.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Eklund blog stating leafs may be weighing options on parting with bernier....

Seems like the right kind of gamble to me.

I used to like Bernier, but he is looking more and more like a 1b goalie. Flames need a starter, not another 1b goalie. Granted he would fit in well with Hiller and Ramo letting in soft goals.lol

[Vinny01]

Would be fine trading Hiller one for one for Bernier. Flames take the risk on the second year but give up nothing of value

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Would be fine trading Hiller one for one for Bernier. Flames take the risk on the second year but give up nothing of value

I think the Leafs would still want something back of some value.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Raymond+Ortio for Bernier, then waive Hiller or Ramo and park in the AHL for the rest of the year. That's the only thing I would consider if I was BT. Bernier has looked no better than any of our goalies but has an extra year at 4m+. That should really hurt his value.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Would be fine trading Hiller one for one for Bernier. Flames take the risk on the second year but give up nothing of value

Just read the blog by EK. Once again he is off his rocker. No chance they waive Bernier. They still need a back-up.

As for your proposal, leafs would be better off keeping Bernier for the year and hope he gets out of his rut. They don't need cap space this year and they are not making the playoffs.

[Machiavelli]

Just Say No to ex-Leafs

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Raymond+Ortio for Bernier, then waive Hiller or Ramo and park in the AHL for the rest of the year. That's the only thing I would consider if I was BT. Bernier has looked no better than any of our goalies but has an extra year at 4m+. That should really hurt his value.

I don't believe Raymond + Ortio gets you anything. Ortio's positive value is outweighed by Raymond's negative value. IMO Maybe Ortio and Jooris?

Bernier is a goalie that might be worth taking a chance on. Far from a sure fire #1 but he has looked good in the past.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I don't believe Raymond + Ortio gets you anything. Ortio's positive value is outweighed by Raymond's negative value. IMO Maybe Ortio and Jooris?

Bernier is a goalie that might be worth taking a chance on. Far from a sure fire #1 but he has looked good in the past.

I agree, it likely wouldn't get it done. I just don't want to see a stupid trade. I view Bernier has a salary dump/reclamation project, we shouldn't be giving up anything of value to acquire him.

[N-E-B]

The Flames do need to upgrade on their goaltending, but Bernier is not the answer.

[herashak]

if hiller or ramo go the other way id swing a deal for bernier. trade a decent d prospect, open up some space on the farm for other younger dmen. maybe a pick aswell.

[DAN0383]

As odd as it seems... I've always wanted Cizikas off the Isles for our 4th line.