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Old 11-28-2015, 02:52 PM   #481
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It looks like Ortio was the victim of bad luck more than anything.

And poor positioning, which seems to be his biggest problem. On that first goal it's hard to blame him, but man he was in another zip code; he wasn't even in a position to give himself a chance to stop it.
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Old 11-28-2015, 09:04 PM   #482
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And did you miss that part when Ortio was light out during his call up last season?
As far as the pre-season and this season, all three goalies have been crappy, period.
Hartley gave more chances to Ramo and Hiller, so I would argue Ramo and Hiller have "outplayed" Ortio as being crappier.

My point is, Ramo has been equally as brutal if not worse, yet gotten a free pass.
Ramo WAS given the net despite brutal outings, while Ortio was exiled and never given a chance ever.
Fine, maybe Hartley was not "out to get him", but he was out of the way unfair to Ortio.
6 games, 14 Goals Against, 2.52GA, .908 Save% with 4 wins and 2 losses.

Lets take a look at Ramo and Hillers numbers for last year as well

Hiller 52 games, 113 Goals Against, 2.36GA, .918 Save% with 26 wins and 19 losses
Ramo 34 games, 75 Goals Against, 2.60GA, .912 Save% with 15 wins and 9 Losses.

So Ortio is clearly better when we take into account save %....err wait... he was worse then both. But we can stand behind his superior GA which must have been way better then..... oh wait, it wasn't. Well, at least he had double the amount of wins then losses, the other goalies didn't meet that stat line. Lets stick to that. Joni "lights out" Ortio.

You said you don't watch practices but as others mentioned the coaches do. Past behaviours are the best predictor of future behaviours. If a guy sandbags it in practice then there is a good chance he will do the same in the future. Always earned never given is a culture, its not just applied to the last game a player played.

I agree that all the goalies have been terrible, like really really bad but Ortio isn't the answer.
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Old 11-28-2015, 10:27 PM   #483
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Hiller probably had a good practise, games are tough though so can't blame him.
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Old 11-29-2015, 06:41 AM   #484
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OMFG, Ramo has been so superior in every single way imaginable!
Such a fantastic "body of work"!
The numbers could not be lying!

Forget about all these "practices" that so many coaches lurking around here watch on a daily basis, and winner gets to keep the net.
Quick, better declare Ramo the undisputed starter for the remaining of this season and staple Hiller on the bench!
Rejoice, Calgary, the saviour has arrived!

Always earned, never given.
Ramo totally earned it, it is the culture.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:03 AM   #485
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It looks like Ortio was the victim of bad luck more than anything.

What really stood out to me in that video is the minor league team seems to be a mirror of the NHL squad. Poor coverage and gawd awful special teams. When do we start to look at this and figure out that maybe our problems are systematic? Management has made certain that our coaches at all levels are using a similar system, yet both teams are currently at the bottom of the collective barrel. Is it time to change up the system and try and adopt something that hasn't been ripped from the pages of a college or European league playbook?
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:13 AM   #486
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He stopped 30 of 32 last night in a win.
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:29 AM   #487
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He stopped 30 of 32 last night in a win.
Was named first star as well.
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It looks like Ortio was the victim of bad luck more than anything.



My goodness this announcer is embarrassing.
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:39 AM   #489
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He's a total and complete homer, and makes no effort to hide it, that's for sure.
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Old 11-29-2015, 09:24 AM   #490
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OMFG, Ramo has been so superior in every single way imaginable!
Such a fantastic "body of work"!
The numbers could not be lying!

Forget about all these "practices" that so many coaches lurking around here watch on a daily basis, and winner gets to keep the net.
Quick, better declare Ramo the undisputed starter for the remaining of this season and staple Hiller on the bench!
Rejoice, Calgary, the saviour has arrived!

Always earned, never given.
Ramo totally earned it, it is the culture.

Have a snickers.
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My goodness this announcer is embarrassing.
not really. He's a giant homer sure, but he's a minor league announcer and has a good knowledge of the game.
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My goodness this announcer is embarrassing.
I think he's a hoot.
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My goodness this announcer is embarrassing.
3:28-3:45

Brutal. I blame the Heat's woes on this announcer.
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My goodness this announcer is embarrassing.
Sounds like David Cross to me. Not as funny though.
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Why not bring Kiprusoff in as a consultant ti work with Ortio and Ramo?

Surely it cant hurt to have a legend come in and coach them a bit?
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Why not bring Kiprusoff in as a consultant ti work with Ortio and Ramo?

Surely it cant hurt to have a legend come in and coach them a bit?
Well if you can find the guy, have at it. I'm pretty sure he's happy doing nothing in the wilds of Finland.
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Old 11-29-2015, 05:43 PM   #498
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Well if you can find the guy, have at it. I'm pretty sure he's happy doing nothing in the wilds of Finland.
He lives in Calgary.
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He lives in Calgary.
I was under the impression he moved home. The people that know him have said he isn't around anymore.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:03 PM   #500
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He's a legend now. An urban myth.


Like imagine you're a kid out with your pals playing shinny outdoors somewhere, on a really snowy night. Suddenly, a gust of wind causes everyone to shield their faces. When it subsides, Kipper is standing there carrying his gear, as if by magic. He says, being a man of few words:

"Hi. Can I play goal?"

After an hour or so, when your parents come to pick you up, you excitedly drag them out of the car to go meet Miikka, but then you find that he's gone. As if disappeared into thin air.
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