WCQF: Dallas Stars (CEN 1) vs Vegas Golden Knights (WC2) (Stars lead 3-2)

[Flames2007FIRE IT UP]

Maybe just me but this is not cheating. It is exploiting a loophole but they are not cheating. Is it not on the other teams to figure this out as well. Vegas has figured out how to take advantage of the LTIR because of the way the rules are written. Nothing is stopping other teams from doing it. The Flames are in no position to do it but if Cgy was competitive and in a cup window and Vegas had done this multiple years in a row I would be mad at our management for not using the same loophole.

I would prefer it closed but people can not blame Vegas at this stage... Everyone knows the rule and how to exploit it. Vegas just keeps doing it.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

It's one game, and that stat seems misleading. All situations tonight including PP1 and and out on the ice in the last minute defending a lead. He plays like that and they keep winning the +/- is a pretty worthless stat for him, and the team.

Maybe a meaningless stat for one game but it's been a problem for him longer than one game.

His pairing also had the worst corsi % by far of any d pair at 29%.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Hanifin in playoff form. -2.

Poor effort

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Poor effort

Yeah he's been one of the worst defenceman in playoffs lately.

Only 2 players on the Knights had an expected goals of 0 on the night at 5 on 5. Hanifin and Nicholas Roy.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Yeah he's been one of the worst defenceman in playoffs lately.

Only 2 players on the Knights had an expected goals of 0 on the night at 5 on 5. Hanifin and Nicholas Roy.

Predictive inferential stats unfortunately have to take a back seat to actual outcomes

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Predictive inferential stats unfortunately have to take a back seat to actual outcomes

I wish you had that same mindset when we were talking about Vladar in the other thread towards end of season.

You see what you want to see but the stats need to back it up too.

[Cortez]

Originally Posted by Flames2007FIRE IT UP

Maybe just me but this is not cheating. It is exploiting a loophole but they are not cheating. Is it not on the other teams to figure this out as well. Vegas has figured out how to take advantage of the LTIR because of the way the rules are written. Nothing is stopping other teams from doing it. The Flames are in no position to do it but if Cgy was competitive and in a cup window and Vegas had done this multiple years in a row I would be mad at our management for not using the same loophole.

I would prefer it closed but people can not blame Vegas at this stage... Everyone knows the rule and how to exploit it. Vegas just keeps doing it.

Yup agreed. This is not a Vegas issue. This is the league allowing it to happen.

You can’t expect teams not to take advantage of it. It’s on the league to fix it

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by 3rd liner

Jesus Thompson. Awful goal.

Originally Posted by chummer

Surprised he started, thought they'd go with Hill.

Thompson is the right choice as he played more games than Hill.

[Tsawwassen]

4 at 3 in regulation time

https://fieldlevelmedia.com/nhl/knig...title-defense/
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/games/49470677/
https://www.espn.com/nhl/recap/_/gameId/401655558
https://www.espn.com/nhl/game/_/game...-knights-stars
https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/nhl-pl...boxscore-41376

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The Sharks and Blackhawks didn't cut those players loose to benefit the Oilers.

If the concern is cap circumvention though, Kane will make 7 million dollars a year for every single year of his old Sharks contract. The Oilers will have a cap hit significantly less than that.

[Erick Estrada]

I would care more about this if several other organizations hadn't already exploited the loopholes. Once the Hossa LTIR skin condition thing basically eliminated the last four years of his deal from their salary cap it was open season for this stuff. The Knights are simply following the blueprint already used by several teams and as the old saying goes "don't fault the player, fault the game".

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Scrambler

I know we benefit from VGK winning in first round from the Hanafin trade. Can someone please remind me how far the Stars need to go for us to benefit from the Tanev trade?

Who dat?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Dorofeyev, Carter, Røndberg, Amadio at forward; Martinez and Hutton on D.

In other words, Martinez and a bunch of scrubs. And at this point in his career, I'm not sure Martinez is much better than a scrub.

It's not as if the Knights are holding super-weapons in reserve.

So it seems like a lot of crying about, really nothing? These are the gangbusters the Knights are ready to unleash.

They are upset at the dollar figure, and not looking at the talent.

They don't even give off super team vibes.

[Canada 02]

A Dallas victory only gets them 1/3 of the way to receiving a 3rd round pick 2 years from now. Strictly from a draft perspective, would rather Vegas win to upgrade their 3rd to a 2nd.

[Flamesfan05]

Go Vegas go!!!!!!

[3rd liner]

Nice dive Robertson, that was McDiver-esque. Stick touched the glove for sure but he went down as if shot. Call embellishment as well. Tap to the gloves and he falls forward??

[3rd liner]

Tie game- marchessault.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Good call on the diving penalty on Dallas. Why did Vegas get a penalty?

That annoys me to no end. You don't have to take both guys.

[3rd liner]

Yeah glad they called that. Looks like Dallas is following the oilers model of trying to dive for PPs.

[Karl]

Wow. 2 huge saves by Ottenger there.