06-21-2017, 02:26 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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He shall forever be remembered for beating up two Canucks at the same time.
He'll be missed!
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06-21-2017, 02:27 PM
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#22
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All I can get
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I figured Engelland would be a Golden Knight anyway. They're in a position to pay him top dollar as well.
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06-21-2017, 02:27 PM
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#23
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Calgary
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Was kind of hoping to have Engelland back as a 6/7 guy but this is better than losing some good young prospects or throwing around picks to hold onto guys. Probably one of the best case scenarios, all things considered.
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06-21-2017, 02:27 PM
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#25
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He was a UFA.
We can still, conceivably sign him on July 1, although there was never and chance of that happening. He was almost assuredly always going to Vegas.
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06-21-2017, 02:28 PM
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#26
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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If true, I would think it's good news for re-signing Versteeg and Stone. I wouldn't be surprised if Treliving was waiting to see how expansion would play out before putting pen to paper. You know, to avoid signing them and then having to protect them.
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06-21-2017, 02:28 PM
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#27
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Powerplay Quarterback
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We were never going to resign him anyway so see ya later, if it couldn't be Brouwer this is the next best option.
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06-21-2017, 02:29 PM
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#28
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Love
For this, he is Forever a Flame
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I think this is the epitome of what a warrior in today's NHL is. A tough guy who can still play and throw them when needed. I will always remember that night. I'll miss this guy.
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06-21-2017, 02:29 PM
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto-matic
Expected but a tough loss, Really loved how Engelland played in his time here. He earned every single penny of his contract.
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how is this a tough loss? Calgary was losing him anyway on July 1st
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06-21-2017, 02:30 PM
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#30
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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Tough loss really as he accounted for 50% of our teams total toughness alongside Ferland.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Treliving sign/ trade for some size come July 1
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06-21-2017, 02:31 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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I'm confused instead of taking a prospect like Kulak or Shinkaruk they select an unsigned Derek Engelland who they could have signed on July 1st anyways?
It still is possible that he doesn't work out a deal with them by July 1st and resigns with the flames.. correct?
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06-21-2017, 02:31 PM
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#32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
I'm confused instead of taking a prospect like Kulak or Shinkaruk they select an unsigned Derek Engelland who they could have signed on July 1st anyways?
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the real confusion is why any fan would think the Flames lost something in this scenario
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06-21-2017, 02:32 PM
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#33
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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He was probably going to go anyways. Odd move by LV.
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06-21-2017, 02:33 PM
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#34
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
It still is possible that he doesn't work out a deal with them by July 1st and resigns with the flames.. correct?
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If he is actually the pick , yes. According to the Knights owner, they did not sign the 2 UFAs they picked today.
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06-21-2017, 02:34 PM
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#35
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
I'm confused instead of taking a prospect like Kulak or Shinkaruk they select an unsigned Derek Engelland who they could have signed on July 1st anyways?
It still is possible that he doesn't work out a deal with them by July 1st and resigns with the flames.. correct?
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I believe they have early negotiating rights with UFA players so any UFA taken in this draft is not so much "drafted" as they are "signed." They would do this right now rather than wait until July 1 because on July 1 they have 30 other teams to compete with.
EDIT: According to Sureloss above me, no UFA players were signed. So then, yes, he could bolt on July 1.
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06-21-2017, 02:34 PM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
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Probably means he'll be a captain, shows a commitment to Engelland before the whole roster comes together.
The real challenge in Vegas will be to quickly cultivate a working roster. Moves like this are intended to lay that foundation.
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06-21-2017, 02:34 PM
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#37
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Kind of highlight what other teams think of our exposed players. Low value and cannot even give them away...
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06-21-2017, 02:34 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
I'm confused instead of taking a prospect like Kulak or Shinkaruk they select an unsigned Derek Engelland who they could have signed on July 1st anyways?
It still is possible that he doesn't work out a deal with them by July 1st and resigns with the flames.. correct?
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Maybe they literally did not value anyone else on the Flames and did not want the contract?
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06-21-2017, 02:35 PM
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#39
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CGY
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id bet boomer was just speculating and shannon mistook it as insider info.
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06-21-2017, 02:35 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
If he is actually the pick , yes. According to the Knights owner, they did not sign the 2 UFAs they picked today.
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Vegas must feel very confident that they will be able to sign the UFAs they selected today.
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