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Old 06-19-2017, 11:34 AM   #321
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Sounds like it will actually be on Space and later CraveTV. Licensing is such a mess.
And it's not clear how much later. If I have to wait until the entire season is finished before I can watch it on Crave, I'll be ticked.
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:46 AM   #322
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and they wonder why people pirate shows
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:54 AM   #323
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Relax guys, it's on Space channel in Canada and has already been announced the episodes will run concurrently with when they're released on CBS All Access.
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and they wonder why people pirate shows
"I'm not paying a huge amount of money for cable just to watch a few channels!"

"I'm not paying $5 a month to watch a single channel!"

These are being said at the same time. How do the production companies make any money?
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:44 PM   #325
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Yeah, if they're not profitable then they go under and we have no content. Folks have to see the other side, too.
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:48 PM   #326
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"I'm not paying a huge amount of money for cable just to watch a few channels!"

"I'm not paying $5 a month to watch a single channel!"

These are being said at the same time. How do the production companies make any money?
The problem is, I pay for cable which includes CBS. Now CBS wants to have this extra crap. They want their cake and they want to eat it. Incidentally, if I want Space I'll have to pay for that, too.

The whole market is a disaster right now. Hopefully one day it gets sorted out. I don't know what the solution is, but 10 different streaming services + cable + custom sports viewers is not it.
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The problem is, I pay for cable which includes CBS. Now CBS wants to have this extra crap. They want their cake and they want to eat it. Incidentally, if I want Space I'll have to pay for that, too.

The whole market is a disaster right now. Hopefully one day it gets sorted out. I don't know what the solution is, but 10 different streaming services + cable + custom sports viewers is not it.
Hey man, I pay extra for SportsNet World so I can feed my soccer habit and fuel it with some Rugby and if I stay up really late even some Aussie No-Rules Football, and then when they're playing Champions' League games its on some channel called BeIn that Shaw doesnt even carry.

So I pay money for a specialty channel and then they just make another specialty channel that I cant give them money for so I cant watch the games I want to watch.

This is a bad deal.
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:55 PM   #328
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The problem is, I pay for cable which includes CBS. Now CBS wants to have this extra crap. They want their cake and they want to eat it. Incidentally, if I want Space I'll have to pay for that, too.

The whole market is a disaster right now. Hopefully one day it gets sorted out. I don't know what the solution is, but 10 different streaming services + cable + custom sports viewers is not it.
This is exactly it, keeping it from their regular network is dirty pool IMO

I pay for cable (no space) and netflix already

so yes I will pirate this facking thing if they are keeping it off CBS that I pay for and omitting it from my region on Netflix. I will lose zero sleep over it
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:04 PM   #329
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The problem is, I pay for cable which includes CBS. Now CBS wants to have this extra crap. They want their cake and they want to eat it. Incidentally, if I want Space I'll have to pay for that, too.

The whole market is a disaster right now. Hopefully one day it gets sorted out. I don't know what the solution is, but 10 different streaming services + cable + custom sports viewers is not it.
I'm the guy who only has cable during hockey/curling season and has no issue with paying separately, so I didn't see it that way. I get your point, and you're definitely right that it's odd. But really...what is on cable that isn't on another service already?
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I'm the guy who only has cable during hockey/curling season and has no issue with paying separately, so I didn't see it that way. I get your point, and you're definitely right that it's odd. But really...what is on cable that isn't on another service already?
One that I really need cable for is Formula 1, which is often on TSN5, so you can't get that without a big package. I also like to watch AMC stuff and shows like Fargo and hockey.

I still find I watch plenty to watch on cable, so I'm not about to cut it. But I pay over $150 a month for what I consider entertainment. Internet, cable, Amazon Prime and Netflix. That's enough money. If these guys can't figure out how to make some of that $150 land in their pockets, that's on them at this point. I'm not signing up for more monthly services.
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Old 06-19-2017, 02:17 PM   #331
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And I mean honestly, even if I have to go on to my cable package and pay the what, extra $4 a month to get Space Channel? I consider that worth it to watch a brand new Star Trek show. I spend more than that on crappy coffees in a month.
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Star Trek: Discovery is going to be breaking two long-established rules for the franchise, the showrunners have revealed.

In an interview with EW, showrunners Aaron Harberts and Gretchen J. Berg revealed that they would not be concerning themselves with ‘Roddenberry’s Box’ – a longstanding tradition that prevented any Star Trek series from having significant interpersonal conflicts within Star Fleet, unless characters were under the influence of some kind of outside force.

In addition to the utopian conflict-free rule, Star Trek: Discovery will be making another major change — from an episodic to a serialized format. The original shows dealt primarily with close-ended episodes, or short story arcs, but the new series will be much more like other, newer sci-fi series with a focus on a season-long arc for the characters.
http://screenrant.com/star-trek-disc...t-series-rule/

Both changes seem pretty logical. Those rules were ridiculous and at least as they're setting this prior to the more common Star Trek era they should be able to get away with it.
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Old 06-24-2017, 01:52 PM   #333
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Ds9 did well in that they did a lot of mini arcs each season under the underlying theme that there was a massive war going on.

So you would get three or four hyper intense episodes then they would break it up with a lighter fare episode or two like Little Green Men or Take me out to the ball game.

The big gamble of a season long arc idea where each episode builds on it is that your going to plant half of your audience if they don't buy into it and they don't come back.

I do like the idea of a conflicted Star Fleet, I always thought that the original concept of the Star Trek universe was too clean.

No money no greed, no racism, the ships were all flying sofa's that never looked dirty or used or stressed and everyone (and I hate this) with the exception of a handful of people were officers.

I liked DS9 because it put that whole universe on its ear. You had Star Fleet officers throwing a coup. You had a exceptional episode where a Star Fleet team had been on the front line for months with no help and their uniforms were torn and grubby and they were burying their friends every day.

Even in Voyager a ship that had no logistical support at all. Every episode that ship was clean their uniforms were clean, they were eating good food, the ship looked new car new.

I'd like to see a Federation on the decline, where the minor races are starting to stretch their legs and desiring independence. There aren't enough ships to patrol everywhere and crews are being stretched, and they can't plug all of the holes. You have desperate Admirals changing to the rules to deal with their we can't do everything at once. We bring back section 31 and make them all powerful and subversive and maybe deciding that the current Federation doesn't serve the people anymore.

For anyone that followed Wing Commander they took their greatest hero and decide to make it that war had burned all of the humanity out of him and he decided that mankind was too weak and greedy and fractured to win the war so he started a Genetics enhancement program and at the same time creating a war that would allow him to wipe out the weaker elements of humanity. It was an exceptionally well done character fall, and it showed that mankind was far from perfect.
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Both changes seem pretty logical. Those rules were ridiculous and at least as they're setting this prior to the more common Star Trek era they should be able to get away with it.
Those rules were broken all the time. It seemed like they were violating starfleet orders all the time, especially in the movies. Both DS9 and Enterprise had an overarching story. A big break with tradition would be to join the modern trend of continuously introducing and killing off main characters.
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Those rules were broken all the time. It seemed like they were violating starfleet orders all the time, especially in the movies. Both DS9 and Enterprise had an overarching story. A big break with tradition would be to join the modern trend of continuously introducing and killing off main characters.
I still hold the belief that Quantum Leap in Space never happened.
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Its sad because I was looking forward to Enterprise and they did some things really well. The ship was outgunned in nearly every battle and halfway through the Xindi stuff the ship was a complete wreck.

But the casting was pretty flawed except for Porthos and they didn't build a sense of fear.

but it could have been great. I even really liked the effects.

As well unlike DS9, or Generations or especially Voyager, they couldn't tech their way out of things.
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If people need to brush up on their Star Trek knowledge I suggest a quick watch.

Okay its ridiculous, but I admit. I laughed.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:43 AM   #338
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So suppossedly the reason for the new look Klingons is basically F you its because we felt like it.

Also the Producer said that this series is going to be influenced by Game of Thrones. So that explains why the Klingon ship looks like a big dragony bird and the set looks like a medieval castle.

Christ I can't believe they buried Axanar for this.

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Isn't it star trek tradition to re-imagine the Klingons every decade? I usually hated Klingon episodes anyway, so I will not be disappointed with any shift in how they tell their story.

I am very excited about the new series!
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:38 PM   #340
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It looks like they got Paul Teutul Jr. to design their costumes. I am not holding out high hopes for this.
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