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Old 01-20-2014, 05:47 PM   #501
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Its not like the Canucks haven't made up fiction in the past. You know the whole that ref said he was going to get us for making him look bad rant by Burrow's I think.

Lets be honest Bieksa's habit of fighting down a class to make him look tough points to an integrity issue.

Plus he's saying this because his coach is in trouble.
you mean the ref who never did another canucks or playoff game again and was out of the league 2 years later?
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:47 PM   #502
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So Bob Hartley is fined for Kevin bieska being a coward?

The NHL is a joke.
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More importantly, when does it start? If it starts on the 19th, he's back just in time for the Canucks to play Boston on the 4th... if not...
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can tortorella run practices or not?
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...id=DL|NHL|home

No contact with the club prior to, during or after the games until his 15 days are up.
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I think 10k for Bob would have been enough. 6 games for Torts is okay in my book.
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sounds about right to me

haha stupid canucks
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LOL, this is great. Personally I think it is way too much for a big bunch of nothing, but the fact that the Canucks got screwed, and that it makes the team, and ESPECIALLY their brain dead fan base so butthurt makes it even more worth while.

Any and all screwing of the Canucks and their violent, criminally insane fan base, in any context, gets me engorged.
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you mean the ref who never did another canucks or playoff game again and was out of the league 2 years later?
It's in your team's DNA

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C'mon guys. The "unwilling opponent" stuff is a smokescreen. The NHL is too gutless to state the real reason Hartley is fined: because he dared to start the fourth line. But it would be way too much of a slippery slope to admit that.
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fair for both IMO

15 days deters the action, and Hartley fined (just as Buffalo was earlier this year) for sending out a goon squad and instigating the incident
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I would hope that Tortorella's salary for 6 games would be at least $25,000. I am also wondering why he wasn't held responsible for Sestito doing worse against the Kings a few days earlier.
It's definitely over 25K. Could be 150K if they are paid like the players who get paid per day of the season (195 days this year).

If they count coach salaries as 365 days, missing 15 days on a 2M salary is still over 80K.

2M was from a google result, probably pretty good ball park range considering he's a higher profile coach with a Stanley Cup in a big market.
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I would also like to add, that I truly believe the league IS out to get the Canucks. And it is so wonderful.
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:55 PM   #513
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fair for both IMO

15 days deters the action, and Hartley fined (just as Buffalo was earlier this year) for sending out a goon squad and instigating the incident
So then Hartley should be fined a lot because that "goon squad" plays several shifts every game. It doesn't make sense to me. What rule did Hartley break exactly?
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The league is not out to get the Canucks, if anything the NHL is guilty of turning a blind eye to the diving antics that took the team to a Cup final.
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15 days without pay, assuming coaches follow the same 195 day season pay schedule as the players do and that Tortorella makes 2M (only quick google result) that's costing Torts just over 150k.
He would be be paid year round. 24 paychecks per year...unlike players.

So roughly 1/24th of 2million...between 80- 85k.
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So then Hartley should be fined a lot because that "goon squad" plays several shifts every game. It doesn't make sense to me. What rule did Hartley break exactly?
this isn't the first fine a coach has gotten for sending out a team like that

he sent out a Center with 2 faceoffs taken this year, everyone knew what he was doing
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I said between 5 and 10 so a little on the low side but not too bad. There should be a fine as well and don't understand why the isn't.

Fining Hartley is pretty stupid though. I would love to see him do it again.
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Most worthwhile 25k fine ever. I'm sure the players and Burke will gladly start up a fund to take care of it. The team is closer then ever now. Well calculated move by Hartley that night that results in his own team coming together, and the Canucks coach suspended and made to look like a fool. Well worth it.
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So then Hartley should be fined a lot because that "goon squad" plays several shifts every game. It doesn't make sense to me. What rule did Hartley break exactly?
He also frequently sends them out following a goal against to generate some "energy", and it doesn't spark fights.



Among the six games Torts will miss are two against Phoenix. They currently lead the Coyotes by 4 points, and the Yotes have 2 games in hand in the wild card race.
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I feel like I really want to throw in that despite his anger, I think Tortarella is a great coach and a good person (with a temper).

I always think of the short segment from 24/7 when he was interacting with a 10 year old fan and I think if you haven't seen it before, you should definitely take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb2aXLNnpNo

On the other hand, he's part of the Vancouver organization now and that means he's unbiasedly a horrible person... so torn...
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