Missing C-8, if found please return to CPS

[undercoverbrother]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...dent-1.3021847

Police say an off-duty CPS member was eating dinner at a Crowfoot Crossing restaurant Saturday night when someone broke into his personal car, which police could only describe as a Subaru.
The person took a locked case from the car, containing the officer's C-8 Colt patrol rifle as well as two 28-round magazines. The officer had taken the rifle home for cleaning. He discovered his car had been broken into when he left the restaurant around midnight and alerted police.
Police Supt. Kevan Stuart says the incident made him feel "sick" to his stomach.
"There is no reason in my mind why an officer would take his firearm home," he said.

I am sure I heard that this happened around midnight.


ooops, this seems to be a big error in judgement of this 3 yr member.

[polak]

That's some ballsy kid to steal a gun from a car he found unlocked.

[nik-]

Wait ... cops don't take their guns home at night?

Is that just for the rifles? The rifle makes sense to me, but do they not take home their pistol?

[Travis Munroe]

Coincidence and extremely bad luck? the day he takes his gun home, stops to dine in somewhere, his car is the only one that is randomly broken into which just happens to have the gun and ammo?

From experience when friends vehicles have been broken into, it is often a smash and dash. Grab whatever you can and get out of there before anyone sees. Wouldnt the gun be in the trunk thus making this thief have to go through a detailed search of the vehicle?

I won't speculate but it seems as if there are some holes to the story right now.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by nik-

Wait ... cops don't take their guns home at night?

Is that just for the rifles? The rifle makes sense to me, but do they not take home their pistol?

http://calgaryherald.com/news/crime/...y-car-prowling#

According to this article Stuart would rather:

He said it’s not uncommon for police officers to bring their handguns home, especially after a night shift, with court duties to follow the next morning. But he stressed that every officer is subject to the same rules and laws as Canadian citizens in regards to the safe storage of firearms.
Overall, he prefers that officers keep their guns at the office.

[Wormius]

It's a Subaru, so I am speculating a hatch-back. So it's possible the thief saw the case through the window.

Or else, if the officer made too much of a deal of obscuring it, then the thief could have witnessed that and thought "something worth stealing!".

[zyzz]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

Coincidence and extremely bad luck? the day he takes his gun home, stops to dine in somewhere, his car is the only one that is randomly broken into which just happens to have the gun and ammo?

From experience when friends vehicles have been broken into, it is often a smash and dash. Grab whatever you can and get out of there before anyone sees. Wouldnt the gun be in the trunk thus making this thief have to go through a detailed search of the vehicle?

I won't speculate but it seems as if there are some holes to the story right now.

I agree. After watching the story on the news last night something heres doesn't seem right

[Trojan97]

The majority of CPS officers leave their service weapon in their locker at the end of shift. There are various reasons why someone might take it home with them but it is not common. As for the shotgun, they can be signed out from the equipment room at the start of each shift and are returned at the end of a shift. It requires additional certification and most officers don't sign them out.

I've never heard or seen a situation where an officer would take a shotgun rifle home with him. Very, very strange.

[zyzz]

Originally Posted by Trojan97

The majority of CPS officers leave their service weapon in their locker at the end of shift. There are various reasons why someone might take it home with them but it is not common. As for the shotgun, they can be signed out from the equipment room at the start of each shift and are returned at the end of a shift. It requires additional certification and most officers don't sign them out.

I've never heard or seen a situation where an officer would take a shotgun home with him. Very, very strange.

This is no shoutgun. It's a automatic, very dangerous and scary weapon

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Trojan97

The majority of CPS officers leave their service weapon in their locker at the end of shift. There are various reasons why someone might take it home with them but it is not common. As for the shotgun, they can be signed out from the equipment room at the start of each shift and are returned at the end of a shift. It requires additional certification and most officers don't sign them out.

I've never heard or seen a situation where an officer would take a shotgun home with him. Very, very strange.

You seem to know what you are talking about, then you use the term shotgun..........

[worth]

I'm really surprised service weapons can actually be taken home at all. While I was in there Army, there was absolutely zero chance of this ever happening, I thought it would have been the same procedure for CPS.

[worth]

Originally Posted by zyzz

This is no shoutgun. It's a automatic, very dangerous and scary weapon

From what I've read CPS uses a variant of the C-8, so there is no full auto function. Single - Burst? (maybe) and Safe only as opposed to Single - Auto - Safe used by the CF.

[Trojan97]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

You seem to know what you are talking about, then you use the term shotgun..........

My mistake. I heard through the grapevine on Sunday morning it was the shotgun that was taken. Having been away, that was the extent of my knowledge.

I didn't even realize it was a C-8 until a second glance at the thread title. I should pay less attention to the Jays game and more attention to reading comprehension apparently.

The fact it's the C8 is frightening. Someone is going to be glued to the front counter for a very long time. Not a good situation at all.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by worth

From what I've read CPS uses a variant of the C-8, so there is no full auto function. Single - Burst? (maybe) and Safe only as opposed to Single - Auto - Safe used by the CF.

It still has 28 round magazines which are illegal for civilian usage. Civilians STANAG mags are pinned to 5 rounds.

[zyzz]

Originally Posted by worth

From what I've read CPS uses a variant of the C-8, so there is no full auto function. Single - Burst? (maybe) and Safe only as opposed to Single - Auto - Safe used by the CF.

It's not this one is it?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S3mjw1FqvkA

[worth]

Yes, true. And I think it's also debatable whether stopping for dinner is even legal. For a civilian to transport a restricted firearm, you need an authorization to transport and then you are supposed to transport the weapon from the range to your home only. Stopping for dinner is not really part of the deal. I'm not even sure if LEO's fall under the same Canadian Firearms program that civilians do? I guess we will find out.

[worth]

Originally Posted by zyzz

It's not this one is it?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S3mjw1FqvkA

It's apparently this version by Colt Canada:

http://www.coltcanada.com/le-patrol-c8iur.html

Which states:

FIRE CONTROL Semi-Auto

So based on that I think it would not have a burst fire mode, only single shot.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by worth

From what I've read CPS uses a variant of the C-8, so there is no full auto function. Single - Burst? (maybe) and Safe only as opposed to Single - Auto - Safe used by the CF.

Originally Posted by zyzz

It's not this one is it?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S3mjw1FqvkA

There are different variants to the weapon in question, that is why worth put that in his title.

For what it is worth, "full auto" is ####ing useless and really useless in the application that the CPS would use the weapon.

It makes not sense for the CPS to have a full auto C-8, none.

[worth]

Yeah, full auto is pretty much only good for clearing trenches, not something the CPS will come across too often.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by worth

Yes, true. And I think it's also debatable whether stopping for dinner is even legal. For a civilian to transport a restricted firearm, you need an authorization to transport and then you are supposed to transport the weapon from the range to your home only. Stopping for dinner is not really part of the deal. I'm not even sure if LEO's fall under the same Canadian Firearms program that civilians do? I guess we will find out.

oh crap, we use to stop all the time between Wainwright and Calgary......