2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

They've had every type of coach other than a "prestige" coach. I don't think it bodes well when your team can only have a modicum of success with 1% of the coaches available. Plus, this team has looked lifeless for a decade... was *every* coach we've hired been uniformly outcoached by all of his peers?

Arguably the exception was when they made the playoffs under Hartley. Few of us had a problem with the effort. We've learned that team was mostly effort / some luck / little structure, and that Hartley's methods to get that effort took a toll. Fine, you get rid of Hartley, treat the players as adults and ask them to deliver the effort minus the beatings. Now they have structure (from my view), but have relaxed on the effort once again.

I'm not discounting the impact that an elite coach may have. I'm just worried that we'll hire one and nothing will change.

Unfortunately for teams like the Flames and Oilers if you look at the past few decades the playoffs on a consistent basis feature teams coached by "prestige" coaches. What did it take to turn around the young guns drought? A prestige coach in Darryl Sutter. When the Canucks had their run who was coaching? Prestige coach. Go ahead and list perennial playoff teams that didn't feature a better than average head coach. It is what it is as if you don't have a team loaded with elite talent you better make sure you have an elite head coach or you get the Flames, Jets, Avalanche, Panthers, etc.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Unfortunately for teams like the Flames and Oilers if you look at the past few decades the playoffs on a consistent basis feature teams coached by "prestige" coaches. What did it take to turn around the young guns drought? A prestige coach in Darryl Sutter. When the Canucks had their run who was coaching? Prestige coach. Go ahead and list perennial playoff teams that didn't feature a better than average head coach. It is what it is as if you don't have a team loaded with elite talent you better make sure you have an elite head coach or you get the Flames, Jets, Avalanche, Panthers, etc.

I agree. I think jets or panthers grab Julien if he gets fired.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

I agree. I think jets or panthers grab Julien if he gets fired.

Maybe the Jets? IMO with a quality head coach that team could break out.

[MarkGio]

Here's who I hope are Flames trade targets:

-- Laughton
-- Strome
-- Eberle
-- Duclair

[1qqaaz]

Our of those 4, I think Strome makes the most sense. His 2 year, 5 million dollar deal is very manageable.

But he'd likely cost more than Laughton or Duclair.

[Mass_nerder]

Yeah, I would give up almost any prospect and a 2nd for Strome.

[playmaker]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Here's who I hope are Flames trade targets:

-- Laughton
-- Strome
-- Eberle
-- Duclair

[JTech780]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Here's who I hope are Flames trade targets:

-- Laughton
-- Strome
-- Eberle
-- Duclair

Laughton is pretty much a 4th liner at the NHL level, I don't see him developing above that. I wouldn't be mad if we acquired him I just don't see the point.

Eberle is a no. Just so many reasons why this is bad idea. Salary, lack of effort, incredibly soft.

Duclair is a speedy 3rd liner, he doesn't have enough offense to be a regular top 6 guy. If the cost comes down I would be interested as is I don't see the fit.

Strome is the only one that really makes sense, depending on cost. At this point I see him as a reclamation project, as such I wouldn't give up more than a 3rd for him.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Yeah, I would give up almost any prospect and a 2nd for Strome.

I wouldn't. I like Strome but for me Parsons, Kylington, Jankowski, and Andersson are off the table. Anyone else plus a 2nd is a go for me.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I wouldn't. I like Strome but for me Parsons, Kylington, Jankowski, and Andersson are off the table. Anyone else plus a 2nd is a go for me.

I would do Parson or Andersson, but I agree that Janko and Kylington would probably be my only two prospects I would take off the table.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Here's who I hope are Flames trade targets:

-- Laughton
-- Strome
-- Eberle
-- Duclair

They should also be looking at some of the Wild's wingers in the off season. Coyle , Tucker, Neideritier. Can't imagine Minny can keep them all.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

I would do Parson or Andersson, but I agree that Janko and Kylington would probably be my only two prospects I would take off the table.

No chance in hell I trade Parsons. I would trade any other prospect before him actually as I think he is our best prospect. I wouldn't do Andersson either, despite some fitness concerns this guy has put up good numbers at every level he has played.

[Mass_nerder]

I look at it as a player that has looked good in the NHL, versus a player who looks like a great prospect, but may never even see the NHL.
I think, especially in the case of Andersson, we have other good defensive prospects that can fill what he might have brought to the team.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Unfortunately for teams like the Flames and Oilers if you look at the past few decades the playoffs on a consistent basis feature teams coached by "prestige" coaches. What did it take to turn around the young guns drought? A prestige coach in Darryl Sutter. When the Canucks had their run who was coaching? Prestige coach. Go ahead and list perennial playoff teams that didn't feature a better than average head coach. It is what it is as if you don't have a team loaded with elite talent you better make sure you have an elite head coach or you get the Flames, Jets, Avalanche, Panthers, etc.

Difficult to assess as coaches get prestige from the team success, similar to the argument for goalies getting prestige due to player success. Dan Blysma is one coach that stands out in my mind as somebody with tremendous NHL success, but makes many questionable decisions and is far from am elite coach in my books. Claude Julien could also be in that boat.

[Beninho]

No way would I trade Andersson or Kylington, this team needs one of them to become a top 6 Dman in the near future and I would rather bank on both of them then rolling the dice on one. If Strome can't be traded for some picks (2nd round max) and maybe an average prospect (Porier or Klimchuk) I would not touch him. His prodcution is another Chiasson right now and has been a major disappointment while being given many oppurtunties the past 2 years to do well. He wasn't even good in the AHL when he got sent down last year. Whatever the Isles want is probably way too much and Tre won't do it because he isn't stupid.

[sureLoss]

Another minor league deal...

Chicago Blackhawks @NHLBlackhawks
#Blackhawks acquire forward Michael Latta from the LA Kings in exchange for defenseman Cameron Schilling. Latta will report to the IceHogs.

[sureLoss]

Blackhawks have reportedly kicked tires on Nyquist and Tatar:

Mark Lazerus ✔ @MarkLazerus
Take every name you hear this time of year with a grain of salt, but I'm told #Blackhawks have at least sniffed around Nyquist and Tatar.

Mark Lazerus ✔ @MarkLazerus
Tatar makes more sense financially (and he's a pending UFA), but Nyquist might be more expendable to Detroit. Wings maybe looking for D-man.

Mark Lazerus ✔ @MarkLazerus
Again a LOT of calls get made this time of year. Most talks never progress very far. But two sources have told me those calls have been made

[thefoss1957]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Blackhawks have reportedly kicked tires on Nyquist and Tatar:

Mark Lazerus ✔ @MarkLazerus
Take every name you hear this time of year with a grain of salt, but I'm told #Blackhawks have at least sniffed around Nyquist and Tatar.

Mark Lazerus ✔ @MarkLazerus
Tatar makes more sense financially (and he's a pending UFA), but Nyquist might be more expendable to Detroit. Wings maybe looking for D-man.

Mark Lazerus ✔ @MarkLazerus
Again a LOT of calls get made this time of year. Most talks never progress very far. But two sources have told me those calls have been made

Others floated in 'Hawk rumors, Sharp, Vanek, Landeskog, Duchesne, Versteeg (again), Frolik...LW is a high priority need, and a young D-man would be expendable, Pokka or Forsling, most likely, and to the right destination, Seabrook's waiving of his NMC has been rumored to be a possibility, however remote.

[Vinny01]

Eklund 3 way trade lolz
Blues: Hamilton
Bruins: Shattenkirk
Flames: 1st, and major prospect

Eklund throwing crap at the wall not letting the bogus Hamilton rumors die.

Also the Flames are in on Deharnais

[Bear]

Detroit media suggesting / speculating Mrazek may be available come the Trade deadline.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nh...azek/96882110/