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Old 07-13-2017, 10:26 AM   #4821
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Blast Deflectors probably going up.

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I was thinking that, but with the shorter runway deflectors sticking up right by the road that could further reduce landing distance via obstacle clearance.
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This is a video from 2012 of another women getting blown back and cracking her head. You probably don't want to watch it. I warned you.
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Old 07-13-2017, 03:22 PM   #4823
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Ok Acey, I thought we were having a difference of opinion based on our respective perspectives and experiences.

But if this is going to be standard immature internet sniping, then I'm out as well.

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Old 07-14-2017, 06:17 AM   #4824
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Air Canada jet was within 30 metres of hitting 2 planes in San Francisco

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/air-can...isco-1.3502414
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:30 AM   #4825
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But if this is going to be standard immature internet sniping, then I'm out as well.
Err... before you head out, perhaps clarify this statement?

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Another perspective, from people that do this for a living, is that an aborted approach was the likely outcome.
Because if you're talking about sniping, I see nothing but a snipe at me in this statement.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:03 AM   #4826
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I was thinking that, but with the shorter runway deflectors sticking up right by the road that could further reduce landing distance via obstacle clearance.
For the purposes of THIS airport, if they were looking to prevent stupid people from being blown back by the jet blast, the deflector would only need to be roughly at fence height, no?
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:48 PM   #4827
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Air Force fly bys get me every time.
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Old 07-18-2017, 03:19 PM   #4828
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It seems like more info regarding the Air Canada flight is coming out.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/1...sfo-near-miss/

This one includes an animation based on the data available.

Thank goodness the pilot reacted in time. Close call.

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Thats crazy!
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This is absolutely frightening. 25 feet??? That's what in seconds?? Two?? Incredible. Surprised this is not a much bigger story.
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Old 07-18-2017, 06:40 PM   #4831
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It seems like more info regarding the Air Canada flight is coming out.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/1...sfo-near-miss/

This one includes an animation based on the data available.

Thank goodness the pilot reacted in time. Close call.
Doesn't seem like more info, they just took flightaware info and from the already posted info in the media and animated it. Important to note that this is an interpretation of public data, not something released by the FAA.

Pretty damning though, essentially lucky there was a gap between the 2nd & 3rd plane as well.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:08 PM   #4832
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Starting now (July 19) all flights from Canada to the US will have "enhanced security measures". No further details provided yet. Westjet and Air Canada now suggest arriving 2 hours before your flight. That would be super early for the first bank of flights in the AM.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:10 PM   #4833
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Starting now (July 19) all flights from Canada to the US will have "enhanced security measures". No further details provided yet. Westjet and Air Canada now suggest arriving 2 hours before your flight. That would be super early for the first bank of flights in the AM.
Great. Just when I have a flight that goes through the US.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:11 PM   #4834
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Starting now (July 19) all flights from Canada to the US will have "enhanced security measures". No further details provided yet. Westjet and Air Canada now suggest arriving 2 hours before your flight. That would be super early for the first bank of flights in the AM.
Looks like is affects electronics for sure.

https://blog.westjet.com/enhanced-se...united-states/
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Old 07-19-2017, 07:46 AM   #4835
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Am in Toronto and the other day driving down from Ottawa there were at least two if not more large, four-prop military planes flying around over highway 7 and the 401 at quite low altitude. Two of them were over the 7 and then a few hours later two more - or possibly the same two - flew a couple circles over the 401 kinda around Trenton. I kept expecting to see them extend landing gear and come in for a landing.

Wikipedia tells me that our Hercules CC-130's are based in Trenton so I'm assuming that's what they were.
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:46 AM   #4836
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So with the first transborder flights departing at 6:00 is US Customs opening any earlier or still at 4:30 (YYC website says this is when they open). The two hour thing is for security so are we going to see people clearing security and then waiting another 30 minutes for Customs to open?
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:55 AM   #4837
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OK flight experts answer me this. I'm looking at flights for myself and some family to head to Winterpeg. I have found direct flights from YEG to YWG and YYC to YWG. The YYC flights are $405 vs the YEG flights at $210.

My question is why the dramatic difference? There seems to be about the same number of flights from each airport therefore, I assume demand is about the same. Do flights leaving YYC burn extra fuel or is it just because they figure all Calgarians are 1%-ers?
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Old 07-19-2017, 12:04 PM   #4838
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The airline is trying to fill the YEG-YWG flight up, the YYC-YWG flight must have better historical load numbers and they know they can charge more.
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Old 07-20-2017, 12:18 AM   #4839
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There seems to be about the same number of flights from each airport therefore, I assume demand is about the same.
By my count, there's almost double the number of daily seats today from Calgary than there is from Edmonton. The fares depend on the day, too; I just quickly looked and there's a couple days in August where the fares look to be the same. There's not a lot of those days, mind you... but they're there.
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Old 07-20-2017, 01:02 PM   #4840
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OK flight experts answer me this. I'm looking at flights for myself and some family to head to Winterpeg. I have found direct flights from YEG to YWG and YYC to YWG. The YYC flights are $405 vs the YEG flights at $210.

My question is why the dramatic difference? There seems to be about the same number of flights from each airport therefore, I assume demand is about the same. Do flights leaving YYC burn extra fuel or is it just because they figure all Calgarians are 1%-ers?
Not all seats on a plane are sold at the same price (fare classes). Buying early, or sometimes buying late, can result in lower fares.
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