Didn't realize it's this easy and fast to steal cars now. A tin container or cheap faraday cage seems like a good idea. Parking on the street anywhere near your home seems like a crazy idea without using one.
I store my keys in a Faraday box now, even the keys for my cars in the garage.
They are about 30 bucks, and I have them neatly yet conveniently hidden. Just make sure you test it as soon as you get it. The ones I bought I can have the box in my hand with the keys in it and it won't unlock the car. But other guys here at work who've bought them, they don't work at all. A lot of them are non functional.
I'll also add, there's a lot of convenient ways to get a kill switch installed. In my F150 Tremor, I had the 6 overhead console auxiliary switches wired by a security guy in a way that they have to be in a certain sequence to engage the starter if I am parking it long term... which tends to be most the winter. But there's all sorts of creative ways you can wire stuff in.
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Faraday fob pouches and tin boxes work well but only when you’re not using your key fobs. If thieves really want to steal an expensive vehicle, they can easily time and wait for you to get in/out and steal the code then. What about garage openers, I wonder? Can garage opener codes be stolen the same way or are they on different transmission method?
Also, an afterthought, would a battery kill switch prevent this type of theft by not allowing a lock to engage? I think it should, eh?
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Faraday fob pouches and tin boxes work well but only when you’re not using your key fobs. If thieves really want to steal an expensive vehicle, they can easily time and wait for you to get in/out and steal the code then. What about garage openers, I wonder? Can garage opener codes be stolen the same way or are they on different transmission method?
My understanding is the majority of these thefts happen in driveways, and when everyone is sleeping.
But there's a point where "That's why you have insurance" kicks in.
The only reason I went the extra mile with my truck, is it lives full time outside and has some accessories out of the States plus Fox suspension parts that are obscenely expensive and I just don't want to go through the hassle to re-order it all and wait 3 months for everything if it's stolen.
Faraday fob pouches and tin boxes work well but only when you’re not using your key fobs. If thieves really want to steal an expensive vehicle, they can easily time and wait for you to get in/out and steal the code then.
Yeah, one of the videos I linked had the owner getting ready in the morning and had moved his keys from the faraday cage to his pocket and they got the car then.
Just picked up a farady box for our keys after our neighbor had his car stolen out of his driveway a couple of weeks ago. I don't leave the vehicles outside usually though, but better safe than sorry
I'll also add, there's a lot of convenient ways to get a kill switch installed. In my F150 Tremor, I had the 6 overhead console auxiliary switches wired by a security guy in a way that they have to be in a certain sequence to engage the starter if I am parking it long term...
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People here in Toronto are getting their houses broken into and keys stolen. Cops (stupidly) even told people to leave your doors unlocked. Ridiculous.
I've seen people installing bollards too. My neighbor parks his ####ty minivan perpendicular behind his new GMC Sierra. Not a bad idea.
So they can get your fob's code just from being around it? You don't have to be pressing a button on it or anything?
Yeah, basically just have it (battery working) powered and not inside a faraday cage. No noise, just 10-20 seconds and they're gone. I think some people try to put their keys further away from the front door/care but who knows how far they might be able to boost the signal to be sure.
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Use your garage for cars. Stop leaving your junk inside and cars outside.
...If you have a garage for cars...
If you have garage but parked outside and had this happen to you . . . I'd be so mad at myself. Nevermind when catalytic converter thefts were all the rage. I assume that has died down?
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Yeah, basically just have it (battery working) powered and not inside a faraday cage. No noise, just 10-20 seconds and they're gone. I think some people try to put their keys further away from the front door/care but who knows how far they might be able to boost the signal to be sure.
If you have garage but parked outside and had this happen to you . . . I'd be so mad at myself.
Thanks. Yeah, I read about it after posting. So basically, going to mall, work, restaurant etc should be fine if you're far away from your car? It's seems to be more of a problem at home.
Thanks. Yeah, I read about it after posting. So basically, going to mall, work, restaurant etc should be fine if you're far away from your car? It's seems to be more of a problem at home.
Kinda glad one of our vehicles still has a key.
Yes I think so. I've read that some people also "airtag" cars they want to steal in public places and find out where they reside - then do the antenna attack when you're home. But I assume that would be for newer and in demand models.
I think my car has a setting that disables the proximity of the fob even being able to unlock the door. But I guess they could manually bypass the door and still do the proximity thing to get it started.
I guess it wouldn't be safe if the car shut itself off if it stopped detecting the fob.
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I get piling on people is the cool thing to do around here.... but.
I get a company car, and why would I use my personal vehicles in the winter when I get a demo from work? So I usually park my personal vehicles in the winter.
Regardless, I pull trailers, camp, do a lot of overlanding, and run a small business on the side that requires a truck in the summer and the odd time in the winter. And or some of the places I end up going, I need a pretty specialized truck to get access. The dealership kinda frowns on me loading a quad on the roof of a Golf R and driving it up sketchy at best logging roads in the middle of nowhere.
That would be the more polite reply than what I originally wrote.
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Easy Car Theft with Antenna Relay Attacks
