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Old 07-13-2013, 04:22 AM   #61
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The Canucks are really starting to remind me of the 2009-2012 Flames. Hovrat and Shinkurak are better than any prospect we had in that time frame not named Sven though.
Nah. Horvat and Shinkurak are good prospects, but they aren't franchise prospects like a Crosby or Stamkos or even Tavares or Hall. Most team's top picks look promising at the time they were drafted. At the end of the day, it's about the prospects reaching their potential and the team getting value for them.
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Gillis should lose his job.
I agree. I suspect that may be what it takes to get Luongo re engaged in the team mentally.
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I agree. I suspect that may be what it takes to get Luongo re engaged in the team mentally.
Luongo was on a Vancouver radio show and said he didn't blame Gillis. This has the owner's fingerprints all over it. Gillis is safe now now.
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Gillis should lose his job.
As a Flames fan I hope this doesn't happen!
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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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Nah. Horvat and Shinkurak are good prospects, but they aren't franchise prospects like a Crosby or Stamkos or even Tavares or Hall. Most team's top picks look promising at the time they were drafted. At the end of the day, it's about the prospects reaching their potential and the team getting value for them.
Shinkaruk is 2013's Robbie Schremp, and will have a similar career arc IMHO.
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Lol atleast the Canucks can make the playoffs
That is working out well for them they are where Calgary was 4 years ago aging core with a bare prospect pool and trending down.
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Yeah, you might want to check your timelines and your facts again. The Sedins were re-signed on July 1st 2009, Luongo was extended a few months later with an entire year left on his contract so the extension didn't kick in until July 1st, 2010, and Kesler was extended as an RFA on March of 2010. Further, at the time of the Luongo extension the Canucks had only $26M committed for 10-11, so I fail to see how they were in some kind of cap crunch.

As for the Sedins, they weren't going to come much cheaper if it all. Their agent repeatedly brought up the Gomez and Drury contracts as comparables and he drew a big distinction between their abilities and that of his other client Horcoff who got a $5.5M a year extension. At one point the Sedins were asking for Zetterberg style deals (12 year $65M or so). As it stands, they've been two of the biggest bargains in the NHL under the contracts Gillis signed them to.

Nice story, but you might want to try to square your basics with reality before you let fantasy take over. As it stands, it's a pretty terrible and disingenuous argument.


If only other Presidents/GMs could ride an unmitigated disaster to 5 straight division titles, 2 President's Trophies, and 56 playoff games (30 of which were home dates) while increasing their franchise value by nearly 50%.

EDIT: I don't want to act like everything's sunshine and roses and I have definite problems with some of Gillis' moves, but calling his tenure a disaster is a little much IMO.
whew, what a hard read....I'll give you the coles notes;

add the salaries of the sedins, plus the salary of Roberto Longo. Then add the long lasting image of T.Marchand's repeated and un-answered, and undefended soft face punches...savour those division titles...
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whew, what a hard read....I'll give you the coles notes;

add the salaries of the sedins, plus the salary of Roberto Longo. Then add the long lasting image of T.Marchand's repeated and un-answered, and undefended soft face punches...savour those division titles...
Don't worry, I'm sure with enough practice you can get your reading up to an adult level.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not even sure what your point is. Is there a bad joke in there I'm missing? You might want to leave the trash talking to those who are wittier and funnier than you appear to be.
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Luongo was on a Vancouver radio show and said he didn't blame Gillis. This has the owner's fingerprints all over it. Gillis is safe now now.
Heaven help the Canucks if it was Aquilini's call.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:17 PM   #70
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Don't worry, I'm sure with enough practice you can get your reading up to an adult level.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not even sure what your point is. Is there a bad joke in there I'm missing? You might want to leave the trash talking to those who are wittier and funnier than you appear to be.

yes, you caught me, practising on you., Please accept this Kleenex, and my apology. Actually, take two Kleenexes because it is apparent you need more. You can thank me later. If you can't see the point, then you have literacy issues.
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Don't worry, I'm sure with enough practice you can get your reading up to an adult level.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not even sure what your point is. Is there a bad joke in there I'm missing? You might want to leave the trash talking to those who are wittier and funnier than you appear to be.

you can't hold any of us responsible for the fact that you cannot comprehend something, work it out with your grade one teacher, reset, then tackle the problem at its root. Good luck to you. You will be doing a public speaking tour on how you overcame your problems in no time.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:56 PM   #73
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Can you please stop?
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thanks for saying 'please', you are a gentleman, your mom would be proud

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thanks for saying please, you are a gentleman, your mom would be proud
What's your problem?
In every thread you're making personal attacks whenever someone doesn't agree with your opinion.

I like a discussion as much as the next guy but these immature pokes at people need to stop.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:12 PM   #76
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I fail to see your point, please provide proof
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Stop feeding the guy. He'll get himself banned soon enough.
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Heaven help the Canucks if it was Aquilini's call.
Francesco didn't feel like paying luigi 20-30, whatever the figure is, millions of dollars to play and win with another team.

Can't say I blame him.
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