That's the thing, they were better than the one-hit status they have.
Not disputing that at all. I love Blind Melon and while No Rain was a good tune,the rest of the album was fantastic, as were the other two. However bottom line is they never gained commercial success until No Rain, and obviously weren't going to have another commercial hit after, so it's really no wonder they're forgotten, IMO.
I'd say at a point each of them were 'better' than the others.
It's pretty hard to beat the longevity of either PJ or FF.
Siamese Dream is the best start to finish album that any of them have released.
Hrmm interesting, in your opinion ok.. but the numbers would say otherwise. Siamese Dream sold 6 million world wide, Pearl Jam - Ten sold 10 million world wide. That is a pretty big jump
Edit: Ten sold 10, it was meant to be.
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Kind of going sideways on this, but I also find it funny that he says the he is a Beatles, Stones and Kinks kind of guy, when the Beatles in particular were essentially the first boy band being marketed to young girls. Their early stuff was extremely commercial and while they get a lot of credit for their later experimental music, they were basically just popularizing sounds that were big in the underground at the time. As far as grunge/alternative and metal music goes, the Kinks are probably underappreciated compared to the Beatles. If they were good looking guys, they probably would have been bigger IMO.
It's funny though, because in retrospect, it almost seems Pearl Jam's original promoters were trying to do a "grunge boy band" thing. They took a couple of relatively well known Seattle grunge musicians (at least well known in that scene), and then recruited Eddie Vedder to sing. When I watch some of their older videos, especially Oceans, it seems like they were totally trying to sell an image. To be fair, I think Pearl Jam evolved into more than that and they musicians are honest about the music, but at the time I think corporate rock was still the only way to break through.
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Yup. I saw them in Edmonton. Foo Fighters were on the tour and completely outperformed and outclassed them.
Highlight of the show for me though was A Perfect Circle. Holy crap they were good.
After I watched Corgan not give a s*** and go through the motions, I vowed to never listen to the Pumkins again.
Yeah I saw the Winnipeg show, same story. Great line up/show up until the time the Pumpkins took the stage. Then it was bitchy Corgan for 90 minutes.
It's amazing how much good will he destroyed in Canada with that one tour. So many people have the same story "Went to Summersault as a fan, left really hating that guy".
I mean sure, maybe he was just having a bad month, but the general consensus seemed to be "what a dick" after that tour.
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He was a one man band when he recorded the album Foo Fighters. He played every instrument for that recording. Only other current day act I know of (I'm sure there are probably others that I don't know about) that has done that is Lenny Kravitz. Maybe not a genius but a supreme talent I would say.
Trent Reznor, Ben Folds, Jack White, and that's just off the top of my head.
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All those bands had their pros and cons. To this day if I had to pick only 5 songs to listen to the rest of my life, "1979" and "No Rain" would be two of them. Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam tunes wouldnt even be in my top 50.
I think Smashing Pumpkins best songs were far better than Pearl Jam or Foo Fighters but around 2000 Pumpkins became irrelivant. I also saw 2000 Summersult and left half way through the Pumpkins set, too much Machina stuff.
I believe Deftones played in BC only that year, you can lump them in with the really good bands of that era.
No one is as good as TOOL though.
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A friend of a friend caught James Iha's guitar pick and cried.
Looking back, that was a RIDICULOUS lineup. Smashing Pumpkins, Foo Fighters, Our Lady Peace, A Perfect Circle, I Mother Earth, Eve 6, Sum 41, Treble Charger, and Finger Eleven. Not all awesome I realize, but almost all are still around in some capacity which you can't say for too many bands from 14 years ago.
Haha, I've never heard anybody say the Rainbow Butt Monkeys added anything special to a lineup.
Treble Charger is awful as well. Only achieved a modicum of popularity because of Canadian content rules.
Sum 41 puts on a good show and I've seen Tool a few times, but never A Perfect Circle. I Mother Earth had a couple of good songs. Our Lady Peace was generally pretty bad, but had a few songs that would be fun live.
I saw Smashing Pumpkins at the dome in '95 or '96 during the Zero tour. It was a good enough show as far as Saddledome shows go, which isn't saying a lot. Man I have a hard time enjoying arena shows.
Haha, I've never heard anybody say the Rainbow Butt Monkeys added anything special to a lineup.
Treble Charger is awful as well. Only achieved a modicum of popularity because of Canadian content rules.
Sum 41 puts on a good show and I've seen Tool a few times, but never A Perfect Circle. I Mother Earth had a couple of good songs. Our Lady Peace was generally pretty bad, but had a few songs that would be fun live.
I saw Smashing Pumpkins at the dome in '95 or '96 during the Zero tour. It was a good enough show as far as Saddledome shows go, which isn't saying a lot. Man I have a hard time enjoying arena shows.
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I will say though 10 is pretty well all Pearl Jam has to hang their hat on. Smashing Pumpkins at least have a handful of good albums.
If Ten was all they ever did of any quality, they'd be struggling to play Deerfoot Casino, let alone still selling out arenas world wide. You don't experience that type of success without an entire catalogue of music that people love.
Ten through Yield are all great albums, with later albums have some quality work as well. I think only in the last 3 or so albums they've started hitting a bit of a wall (as always happens with age). Just because Pearl Jam took themselves out of the limelight doesn't mean they stopped making great music.
You want to know why people have loved Pearl Jam for twenty plus years? They didn't keep making Ten. They shy'd away from the spotlight and instead of chasing fame, the way Corgan seems to often do, they just focused on the music, and the music has always been deeply personal and real. That's what stays with people. Not to mention they actually seem like good guys that people can connect with.
Ask 5 different Pearl Jam fans what their favourite album is, and you'll get 5 different answers (and I'd bet few of them say Ten). Mark of a great band.
The CJAY 92 notion that Ten was their only good album is a farce.
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Billy Corgan is a fantastic song writer and an average singer. I never want to meet Corgan, or see him live because I'm quite sure I'd stop listening to his music. The Pumpkins are still on my playlist as well as Pearl Jam, Alice n' Chains, and Soundgarden. Tool is the best as mjk has already stated.
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If Ten was all they ever did of any quality, they'd be struggling to play Deerfoot Casino, let alone still selling out arenas world wide. You don't experience that type of success without an entire catalogue of music that people love.
Ten through Yield are all great albums, with later albums have some quality work as well. I think only in the last 3 or so albums they've started hitting a bit of a wall (as always happens with age). Just because Pearl Jam took themselves out of the limelight doesn't mean they stopped making great music.
You want to know why people have loved Pearl Jam for twenty plus years? They didn't keep making Ten. They shy'd away from the spotlight and instead of chasing fame, the way Corgan seems to often do, they just focused on the music, and the music has always been deeply personal and real. That's what stays with people. Not to mention they actually seem like good guys that people can connect with.
Ask 5 different Pearl Jam fans what their favourite album is, and you'll get 5 different answers (and I'd bet few of them say Ten). Mark of a great band.
The CJAY 92 notion that Ten was their only good album is a farce.
Yep, one of the few bands that comes up with a brand new set list every single show. Incredible when you think about it.
I listened to Corgan on Howard Stern, and I couldn't believe his arrogance....the jealousy was flowing hard. The weirdest part to me - was the fact that Howard Stern didn't call BS on Billy, he usually calls people out on that s*it. Instead, Howard sat there like a mesmerized school girl....that was the entertaining part for me, all Howard would say was how much he loved Corgan and the Pumpkins over and over....
I listened to Corgan on Howard Stern, and I couldn't believe his arrogance....the jealousy was flowing hard. The weirdest part to me - was the fact that Howard Stern didn't call BS on Billy, he usually calls people out on that s*it. Instead, Howard sat there like a mesmerized school girl....that was the entertaining part for me, all Howard would say was how much he loved Corgan and the Pumpkins over and over....
Oh yeah, Stern has always loved Billy Corgan to the point of being star struck. It's weird, he isn't usually like that.
Smashing Pumpkins have written some decent songs, with the vocals being the weak point of the band. But their stuff is getting old.
Only enjoy a couple tracks any more.
Pearl Jam is some of the most grating music and vocals I've heard in a rock band. Sound like the redneck version of Tragically Hip, which is probably the most unlistenable mainstream rock band ever.
Dave Grohl can single handedly make better music than either band though. Not even on the same stratosphere as Foo.
Of course just my opinion, but one I stand by.
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