I'd like to go for Mikko Rantanen, a big Finnish (6'4, 195 lbs) that loves to crash the net.
I would not mind him either to be honest. without having seen him play though his stats are a little bit shakey with 22 gp and only 7 assists to speak of for TPS.
I was hoping he'd be closer to Barkov's production but nothing to show just yet.
Barkov in his draft year with Tappara had 48 points in 53 gp. Big numbers for a 17 year old playing in a men's league.
Rantanen is only a year younger than Barkov and two drafts apart so he's a late one in this years draft if I am right.
I would not mind him either to be honest. without having seen him play though his stats are a little bit shakey with 22 gp and only 7 assists to speak of for TPS.
I was hoping he'd be closer to Barkov's production but nothing to show just yet.
Barkov in his draft year with Tappara had 48 points in 53 gp. Big numbers for a 17 year old playing in a men's league.
Rantanen is only a year younger than Barkov and two drafts apart so he's a late one in this years draft if I am right.
Would love to see how Rantanen fares in the WJC.
Yeah, if we were just stat watching, Rantanen doesn't look very appealing. Maybe we could snag him with our 2nd. Probably not though, I am pretty sure a team would take a risk on him. He seems like a boom or bust pick.
Yeah, if we were just stat watching, Rantanen doesn't look very appealing. Maybe we could snag him with our 2nd. Probably not though, I am pretty sure a team would take a risk on him. He seems like a boom or bust pick.
Been reading up a bit and it seems TPS's new coach is giving Rantanen the old Sven treatment. less than 10 min ice time per game, no special teams. Not excuses but it would be interesting to see him in the WJC with a veritable all-star team around him.
From what I've gathered, he's more of a playmaker than a goal scorer and I'm not sure the Flames need more playmakers, need goal scorers IMO if they were to take a forward.
That's why I was keying in on Korostelev. Kid had great size and can shot the puck. Also, C/RW which is an added bonus. He's tearing it up in Sarnia so far.
He's been lining up with Zacha so that may have a bit to do with it.
Here's a hat trick that didn't have much to do with anyone but him:
A little more on rating Rantnen. I did some more looking around at 1st round pick Junior Finnish players and Kasperi Kapanen had 7g and 7a in his draft year with his mens team.
So if Rantanen can put up equal amount of points in the rest of his season he just may be a good first round pick with a similar trajectory as Kapanen. Likely a two year wait until he sees NHL time.
Combined Button, ISS, FC, HockeyProspect and McKeen's rankings to show the variance in a prospect's rankings.
Top of the vertical line shows the highest a prospect was ranked, the bottom of the line shows the lowest the prospect was ranked, while the triangle shows the average rank.
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Combined Button, ISS, FC, HockeyProspect and McKeen's rankings to show the variance in a prospect's rankings.
Top of the vertical line shows the highest a prospect was ranked, the bottom of the line shows the lowest the prospect was ranked, while the triangle shows the average rank.
Musil must be an odd case... outside the top 3 he has the smallest variance and he's way down at #25 where you'd expect a high degree of variance. High Floor-Low Ceiling guy?
The rankings for Sprong and Bittner are all over the map.
Sprong from 7-28 and Bittner from 15-41 makes things interesting.
With Sprong going from the top 10 to the late 1st round gives me hope that we can still draft him anywhere. Should we worry though that he is all over the rankings right now though?
The lower Sprong is ranked the more likely we are to get a shot at him. His linemate and center, Filip Chlapik, isn't even on the list and he's an excellent player. Charlottetown is a pretty mediocre team but that pair (and Mason McDonald) makes them fun to watch.
I saw Sherbrooke defenceman Jeremy Roy play tonight. He has a good tool kit. Right handed shot, very good crisp passes, intelligent decisions under pressure and a hard, accurate point shot on the power play which he gets off in an eye blink. Looks like a good one.
stuff on the WJC I didn't summarize. just know that McDavid is on track to return for the WJC and Button has Klimchuk as projected to be invited to the selection camp
if you put Button's feet to the fire he would go with Sandstrom
Daniel Vladar - aka Darth Vladar - is a pretty good goaltender, big guy. have to be careful with big guys because sometimes they are looking at them just because they are big
A little more on rating Rantnen. I did some more looking around at 1st round pick Junior Finnish players and Kasperi Kapanen had 7g and 7a in his draft year with his mens team.
So if Rantanen can put up equal amount of points in the rest of his season he just may be a good first round pick with a similar trajectory as Kapanen. Likely a two year wait until he sees NHL time.
Teenagers playing against men, their situations vary a lot and their maturity level in their draft year doesn't necessarily indicate how they project. That means stats are tough to compare. I imagine NHL scouts look right past that.
I don't know anything about Rantanen, other than at 6'4'' he might be coming to terms with a growth spurt. Regardless of stats, he could be a good late first round pick. Or he could be bad for all I know. Maybe comparable to where Teräväinen was at this date in his draft year (in terms of maturity and draft position).
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Teenagers playing against men, their situations vary a lot and their maturity level in their draft year doesn't necessarily indicate how they project. That means stats are tough to compare. I imagine NHL scouts look right past that.
I don't know anything about Rantanen, other than at 6'4'' he might be coming to terms with a growth spurt. Regardless of stats, he could be a good late first round pick. Or he could be bad for all I know. Maybe comparable to where Teräväinen was at this date in his draft year (in terms of maturity and draft position).
From a fan stand point, it's all I can really do is stat watch and read the scouting reports on Euro players and youtube highlights if available. In Rantanens case, I tried to find other players aside from Barkov with comparable stat numbers to kind of see where he stood. so far 9a in 25 gp isn't a bad thing seeing as he's a 3rd/4th line guy on TPS right now from what I have read.
I chose Kapanen at the time because 7g,7a in 47 gp was a good base to judge from a distance what kind of player I was trying to get a read on.
Either way, Rantanen looks to be a big time play maker than a goal scorer and outside of a good D man, I feel the Flames would be better off with a RH goal scorer. I'm still very keen to watch Rantanen in the WJC though, seems like a fascinating player.
From a fan stand point, it's all I can really do is stat watch and read the scouting reports on Euro players and youtube highlights if available. In Rantanens case, I tried to find other players aside from Barkov with comparable stat numbers to kind of see where he stood. so far 9a in 25 gp isn't a bad thing seeing as he's a 3rd/4th line guy on TPS right now from what I have read.
I chose Kapanen at the time because 7g,7a in 47 gp was a good base to judge from a distance what kind of player I was trying to get a read on.
Either way, Rantanen looks to be a big time play maker than a goal scorer and outside of a good D man, I feel the Flames would be better off with a RH goal scorer. I'm still very keen to watch Rantanen in the WJC though, seems like a fascinating player.
I don't know more about Rantanen than you do. You're right that a young player like him can make a statistical turnaround in the second half of the season. I think Teuvo went from overlooked to overrated in that time, but my memory might be false.
Could be less mature than Kapanen though. Just a feeling. A team might conclude that he projects very well even if he doesn't score much this season. Kapanen is point per game this season, Rantanen may well have a longer road ahead of him.
Just speculating. Without watching him it's impossible to say. The stats don't tell much.
Craig Button on Edmonton radio today said that he thought Strome and Marner are better players than Hanifin.
Called Hanifin a Ryan Suter type defenceman, top pairing potential and useful but not a generational talent.
Button says Hanfin's offense isn't great enough for him to be considered a generational talent.
Also thinks Hanifin and Werenski are comparable talents with not much seperating them.
Seems odd for him to say this after he ranked Hanifin 3rd in the combined chart you posted. He also never went higher than ranking Strome 4th, Marner 5th and Werenski 6th in his list from barely a couple of weeks ago. Now he says he's felt that there isn't much between Hanifin and Werenski? Hmm.....
Seems odd for him to say this after he ranked Hanifin 3rd in the combined chart you posted. He also never went higher than ranking Strome 4th, Marner 5th and Werenski 6th in his list from barely a couple of weeks ago. Now he says he's felt that there isn't much between Hanifin and Werenski? Hmm.....
why is it odd? If he thinks that there is a clear 1-2 and then a group between 3 and 6 where there isn't much difference, it makes perfect sense. Personally I find it more surprising that Button seems to think higher of Werenski than of Kylington at this point. It seems like Kylington is slipping a little bit.
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