Selanne rips Boudreau

[Fire of the Phoenix]

I agree with Teemu except for one thing. Why whine over twitter now? Or ever as a professional really? I guess he's retired now so he can do what he wants but I really just don't see what the point of saying this months later is. Still one of my top 10 favorite players but twitter/fb whining irks me from anyone. I should add I don't like twitter/fb in general.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

I agree with Teemu except for one thing. Why whine over twitter now? Or ever as a professional really? I guess he's retired now so he can do what he wants but I really just don't see what the point of saying this months later is. Still one of my top 10 favorite players but twitter/fb whining irks me from anyone. I should add I don't like twitter/fb in general.

This is from a 3rd party who is tweeting these excerpts from Selanne's book. Not Selanne tweeting himself.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Warrener saying on the radio this morning regarding this that there comes a point in an athletes career where they no longer have it but still think they do and it's hard to come to grips with. Players are always the last to realize they no longer have it.

He was the Olympic MVP at age 43. Sure, he's not the same player he once was, but he proved that he can still play with that performance. And it's not like he was asking to be on the top line either, he just wanted some power play time.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Anduril

This is from a 3rd party who is tweeting these excerpts from Selanne's book. Not Selanne tweeting himself.

My mistake, didn't read that part. I guess I should sleep more.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by codynw

He was the Olympic MVP at age 43. Sure, he's not the same player he once was, but he proved that he can still play with that performance. And it's not like he was asking to be on the top line either, he just wanted some power play time.

Robert Reichel couldn't cut it in the NHL and still lit things up internationally for years after he was exiled from the NHL. It's not the same game and his prowess on the international ice isn't an indicator that he could be effective in the NHL playoff grind. It's like they discussed on the radio; What does a 43 year old Selanne bring to the table at 43 when he's not scoring? Nothing and you have to stick with the team concept that got you where you are which is sticking with the players the coaches think can help the team the most at both ends of the ice.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by codynw

He was the Olympic MVP at age 43. Sure, he's not the same player he once was, but he proved that he can still play with that performance. And it's not like he was asking to be on the top line either, he just wanted some power play time.

exactly.

Warrener's critique rings hollow with this fact. He made the all Olympic team with guys like Doughty, Price, Kessel. Pretty objective indicator of his residual talent in crunch time.

[terminator]

Selanne really should proof read his hideous writings before posting. What a tool shed.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Robert Reichel couldn't cut it in the NHL and still lit things up internationally for years after he was exiled from the NHL. It's not the same game and his prowess on the international ice isn't an indicator that he could be effective in the NHL playoff grind. It's like they discussed on the radio; What does a 43 year old Selanne bring to the table at 43 when he's not scoring? Nothing and you have to stick with the team concept that got you where you are which is sticking with the players the coaches think can help the team the most at both ends of the ice.

The Olympics and the Czech league should not be talked about in the same conversation. Selanne was the MVP in a tournament filled with the best hockey players in the world at age 43. I think he's capable of getting powerplay time above guys like Patrick Maroon.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Boudreau was let go from Washington for the exact reasons Selanne describes here. Didn't really have much conviction as a coach and was too laid back to win in the playoffs. Players like him, but probably because he doesn't push them hard enough. He's just too nice, as evidenced by his weak response to Selanne's questions. A tougher coach would have told him where to go if it was his call to keep him out of the lineup. If the GM and scouts were really that involved then Boudreau should have told them it was his decision at the end of the day.

Selanne's a winner, and sometimes they get upset if they aren't included as part of the solution. Yes, he might have a hard time letting go of his role, but he didn't look out of place last year and he still had 6 points in 12 playoff games despite having a reduced role.

Basically, I agree with Selanne's assessment of Boudreau, but I think he also didn't know when to accept a lesser role.

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by terminator

Selanne really should proof read his hideous writings before posting them. What a tool shed.

It's a book about him, not a book by him, and even though he endorses the book, it has some negative material that I'm sure if he had the choice he wouldn't have put there.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

exactly.

Warrener's critique rings hollow with this fact. He made the all Olympic team with guys like Doughty, Price, Kessel. Pretty objective indicator of his residual talent in crunch time.

Well maybe you should listen to Eric Duhatschek who has insight on the topic. Puts Selanne in a bad light as he also rips on Carlyle in the article and it's just sour grapes by a player that couldn't accept his role.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

Boudreau was let go from Washington for the exact reasons Selanne describes here. Didn't really have much conviction as a coach and was too laid back to win in the playoffs. Players like him, but probably because he doesn't push them hard enough. He's just too nice, as evidenced by his weak response to Selanne's questions. A tougher coach would have told him where to go if it was his call to keep him out of the lineup. If the GM and scouts were really that involved then Boudreau should have told them it was his decision at the end of the day.

Selanne's a winner, and sometimes they get upset if they aren't included as part of the solution. Yes, he might have a hard time letting go of his role, but he didn't look out of place last year and he still had 6 points in 12 playoff games despite having a reduced role.

Basically, I agree with Selanne's assessment of Boudreau, but I think he also didn't know when to accept a lesser role.

Doesn't push players hard enough? LOL you need to read the book obviously. Selanne ripped Boudreau for running too tough of a training camp. The guy comes off pretty selfish and it's one of those cases where he probably would have been better served keeping some of those feelings to himself. I know Iginla's had disagreements with coaches in the past but you will never hear him air that dirty laundry.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Doesn't push players hard enough? LOL you need to read the book obviously. Selanne ripped Boudreau for running too tough of a training camp. The guy comes off pretty selfish and it's one of those cases where he probably would have been better served keeping some of those feelings to himself. I know Iginla's had disagreements with coaches in the past but you will never hear him air that dirty laundry.

believe Selanne ripped Carlyle for running too tough of a training camp, not Boudreau.

his main beef with Carlyle was that the practices were so hard he believed that the other team had an advantage with fresher legs

[Henry Fool]

As I understand, it's meant to be a book that also tells about Selänne's negative moments and traits rather than just the usual hero worship. It seems like Teemu is okay with this even though he doesn't like everything that was put in. So take it in that context. If to you it tells us more about Teemu than Boudreau, then that may well be the point. No one is perfect and an argument with the coach doesn't turn him into a different person from what you thought he was.

[Huntingwhale]

Teemu's legacy is now ruined.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Teemu's legacy is now ruined.

Not likely.

[PIMking]

If I were a coach I'm riding the Selanne train as long as I can or until he died. The guy was still a good player. should've been on the PP

[saillias]

Sounds like the guy became a bit larger than life and lived in sort of a bubble. Getzlaf's refusal to get involved is telling too. Sorry Teemu, you got old.

[Ashasx]

I think Boudreau has had the Ducks playing way above their heads the last 2 seasons so it's hard for me to support Teemu here.

Boudreau is a good coach. Maybe he clashes with big egos.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I think Boudreau has had the Ducks playing way above their heads the last 2 seasons so it's hard for me to support Teemu here.

Boudreau is a good coach. Maybe he classes with big egos.

I agree as when you compare the depth of rosters between the three California teams it's kind of surprising how the Ducks have actually outperformed them in the regular season. The guy is one of the top coaches in the league and IMO while his teams haven't done well in the playoffs I personally feel teams that play over their heads in the regular season like the Ducks eventually get exposed in the playoffs as the Kings, Sharks, and Hawks have more depth.