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Old 04-27-2017, 08:45 AM   #21
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I can't believe that someone paid 7-10k for this. PT Barnum was right, there is one born every minute.

The bottom line is that companies like that feed on the fantasy that every man or woman has, that if they engage them they are going to get their hot matchup. Attractive, well educated, has a nice house and car and might be rich and wanting 2.5 kids.

so its natural that they prey on maybe the unattractive, and the over weight and the older and the abandoned.

This company's mistake is they made too many promises. 12 dates, background checks and all of that stuff that they clearly didn't do. So in a legal sense she's absolutely right. However, I really don't know what she expected. Them to find her a Brad Pitt.

A fool and her money.

As an add on I'd be curious about her interaction with them before she got set up, cause this really feels like an enormous FU towards her.
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My question is how did this guy afford a fee that I imagine would be comparable to what she paid, to be part of the service?
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My question is how did this guy afford a fee that I imagine would be comparable to what she paid, to be part of the service?
Maybe he didn't. Maybe he's employed as a way to get rid of undesirable clients.

A cooler so to speak.

But everyonce in a while, his toothless homeless act is the ultimate aphrodisiac and he finds himself dancing with the headboard in the pale moon light.
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Maybe he didn't. Maybe he's employed as a way to get rid of undesirable clients.
Can't be. Then he'd be a toothless, homeless, part-time employed man. The client clearly said he was unemployed.
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How is it even possible to pay money for matchmaking in 2017? Really? She's never used the internet? Mind blown these companies exist.
Many women get harassed on the free dating sites, and would rather pay a fee to avoid that.

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You should be able to judge someones appearance if they are a potential mate. Everyone does it as it is instinct to breed with the strongest genetics you can. Nobody wants to date a homeless guy or girl except someone who is also in the same position. If they really wanted a toothless homeless guy I'm pretty sure he would be pretty easy to pick up. This company is scamming people who obviously do not have the social skills to find a mate on their own.
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My question is how did this guy afford a fee that I imagine would be comparable to what she paid, to be part of the service?
maybe, there's so many women on it, men can sign up for free.
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My question is how did this guy afford a fee that I imagine would be comparable to what she paid, to be part of the service?
Herein lies the problem, and why I think this is actually newsworthy (as much as any other consumer report type thing is.)

Judging from the article (and this is just my take on it), he wasn't a client. He was likely hired or given a cut of what she paid, so they got the one meetup and didn't breach their contract, and could take her money and run. And to (rarely) disagree with Captain, I don't think it was to 'get rid of an undesirable client'.

It seems like most of the posts in this thread are tearing her apart for her expectations (a guy with a job that she finds moderately attractive is not a high bar), or going to the media with this.

To me it seems like a shady company who is just trying to make easy money for little work. If she bought a 'condo' from a real-estate company that turned out to be an empty lot or a sea-can no one would be taking the real-estate company's side. Or if she was scammed by a shady contractor.

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I can't believe that someone paid 7-10k for this. PT Barnum was right, there is one born every minute.

The bottom line is that companies like that feed on the fantasy that every man or woman has, that if they engage them they are going to get their hot matchup. Attractive, well educated, has a nice house and car and might be rich and wanting 2.5 kids.

so its natural that they prey on maybe the unattractive, and the over weight and the older and the abandoned.

This company's mistake is they made too many promises. 12 dates, background checks and all of that stuff that they clearly didn't do. So in a legal sense she's absolutely right. However, I really don't know what she expected. Them to find her a Brad Pitt.

A fool and her money.

As an add on I'd be curious about her interaction with them before she got set up, cause this really feels like an enormous FU towards her.
It has absolutely nothing to do with her being a sucker.

Loneliness is a powerful and horrible emotion, and has been studied and linked to mental and physical health problems as well as mortality rates.

They're not preying on a sucker, they're praying on someone who's lonely and vulnerable.

People get bilked out of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on dating sites from bots and scams, or spend similar figures for over-seas brides. This woman was spending a few grand on what she was hoping was going to not waste her time and effort and go on countless first dates because the company advertised background checks and making appropriate matches. Which is the entire point of a matchmaking service.

Instead she gets paired with a single date that didn't meet her two basic requirements (and I say basic because even on dating sites you can filter by height, weight, and annual income - and in Edmonton, I assume number of teeth).

She never once said she was looking for Brad Pitt, she was looking for someone whom she found attractive, and if they were an actual matchmaking service, they would have known the type of person she was attracted to.

The clip sureLoss posted was basically what I assume happened here (later in that episode, it turns out his 'matches' were all rounded up last minute at the bus station).

From what I see, this company did not meet expectations, did the bare minimum amount of work to meet the fine print, and took almost $10k to do it. And instead of looking at the company closer we're blaming this on the fact that she's 'not a prize pig' or only suckers use matchmaking services?
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:07 AM   #32
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How is it even possible to pay money for matchmaking in 2017? Really? She's never used the internet? Mind blown these companies exist.
Have you ever seen what a lot of women deal with on Tinder or POF?
If she's in her mid-50s and has the cash, why would she subject herself to getting dick pics?

Also, there's a much smaller subset of people 50+ using online dating tools. Kind of like how my dad still uses the Yellow Pages.
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The guy lived in a camper, so he's not homeless. And he didn't have all his teeth? Also the article height shames him. Maybe he's a super nice guy, and just an eccentric outdoorsman.

Ok. Let's do this, and turn it around. If a man approached CBC about this service, and complained even remotely about the appearance or social status of a woman he was set up with? Oh lord. He'd be publicly shamed into the Stone Age. Go Fund ME's and makeovers would be pouring in. Oprah would have the slow piano music darkened studio intro for her.

The double standard on display with this report is kinda sickening. I'm not saying the matchmaking service is in the clear. But what do you expect when your basically treating dating like yanking on a slot machine handle in a seedy casino.
What a whiny diatribe!! Let's completely miss the point of the article - an unscrupulous dating site taking advantage of lonely women - and turn it into an opportunity for CP's leading MRA to take up the cause for the MRM!

"It's no fair. The lady said some mean thing about the man."

Pathetic. LOL

Maybe you want to post some more car pictures too. Your fan club seems to admire them.
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Imagine the guy reading or watching the news report...
The dude was Mr. Edmonton so I'ma gonna stop you right there...
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The main fault of the site was that they should have come right out and told her that she wasn't being realistic. It would be like a an overweight 50 year old man going on there looking for a hot 20 year old.

She listed a bunch of superficial qualities that are rare to find on a dating website, especially in her demographic (and let's be honest, looks do play a role in match-ups). They should have told her she was living in la-la land. Physically, they probably matched her up appropriately with someone in her league.
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Her biggest problem is trying to find a guy who still has all his teeth in Edmonton.
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The main fault of the site was that they should have come right out and told her that she wasn't being realistic. It would be like a an overweight 50 year old man going on there looking for a hot 20 year old.

She listed a bunch of superficial qualities that are rare to find on a dating website, especially in her demographic (and let's be honest, looks do play a role in match-ups). They should have told her she was living in la-la land. Physically, they probably matched her up appropriately with someone in her league.
Being realistic would be a publicity nightmare for them as well though.

If they did tell her to have reasonable expectations, she would be screaming to the media about how they are fat shaming her or being superficial and judging her only on her looks.

People want to be deluded and will freak out if they get called on it.
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Have you ever seen what a lot of women deal with on Tinder or POF?
I have, and it's ruthless. I had a classmate at SAIT who signed up just for giggles, cute blonde girl. Hundreds of matches in just a few days and she showed us her messages. Just savage. It'd have been unreasonable for her to actually pursue an in-person meeting with 90% of those guys.
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I’m going to be honest of what I’m going to say here. I’m 25 this year. I’m very pretty, have style and good taste. I wish to marry a guy with $500k annual salary or above. You might say that I’m greedy, but an annual salary of $1M is considered only as middle class in New York.

My requirement is not high. Is there anyone in this forum who has an income of $500k annual salary? Are you all married? I wanted to ask: what should I do to marry rich persons like you?

Among those I’ve dated, the richest is $250k annual income, and it seems that this is my upper limit.
If someone is going to move into high cost residential area on the west of New York City Garden(?), $250k annual income is not enough.

I’m here humbly to ask a few questions:

1) Where do most rich bachelors hang out? (Please list down the names and addresses of bars, restaurant, gym)
2) Which age group should I target?
3) Why most wives of the riches are only average-looking? I’ve met a few girls who don’t have looks and are not interesting, but they are able to marry rich guys.
4) How do you decide who can be your wife, and who can only be your girlfriend? (my target now is to get married)
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Dear Ms. Pretty,
I have read your post with great interest. Guess there are lots of girls out there who have similar questions like yours. Please allow me to analyse your situation as a professional investor.
My annual income is more than $500k, which meets your requirement, so I hope everyone believes that I’m not wasting time here.
From the standpoint of a business person, it is a bad decision to marry you. The answer is very simple, so let me explain.

Put the details aside, what you’re trying to do is an exchange of “beauty” and “money” : Person A provides beauty, and Person B pays for it, fair and square.
However, there’s a deadly problem here, your beauty will fade, but my money will not be gone without any good reason. The fact is, my income might increase from year to year, but you can’t be prettier year after year.

Hence from the viewpoint of economics, I am an appreciation asset, and you are a depreciation asset. It’s not just normal depreciation, but exponential depreciation. If that is your only asset, your value will be much worse 10 years later.

By the terms we use in Wall Street, every trading has a position, dating with you is also a “trading position”.
If the trade value dropped we will sell it and it is not a good idea to keep it for long term – same goes with the marriage that you wanted. It might be cruel to say this, but in order to make a wiser decision any assets with great depreciation value will be sold or “leased”.

Anyone with over $500k annual income is not a fool; we would only date you, but will not marry you. I would advice that you forget looking for any clues to marry a rich guy. And by the way, you could make yourself to become a rich person with $500k annual income.This has better chance than finding a rich fool.

Hope this reply helps.

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The main fault of the site was that they should have come right out and told her that she wasn't being realistic.

She listed a bunch of superficial qualities that are rare to find on a dating website, especially in her demographic
Source? Where did you see she listed off a bunch of rare, superficial, unrealistic qualities?

In the article it says she filled out:
-attractive (that's a relative term, that doesn't mean she was looking for a 11 in a sea of 4s.
- have a career
- be a few years on either side of 55.

If that's an unrealistic, la-la land set of qualities, holy crap did I set my bar way too high when I was on Tinder.
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