2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[calgaryblood]

I wouldn't even do a straight across Brodie for Drouin trade let alone add to it.


Drouin is overrated and still has a lot to learn in the defensive zone. He is also very soft, don't know how the poster called him a grinder, that couldn't be further from the truth.

[robaur]

Drouin is pretty effing good. His game has grown a lot since he was drafted.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

As usual? I rarely do the one liner thing, but what you wrote was completely ridiculous. Sorry

I contribute just fine, thanks.



Brodie is a top pairing NHL defenseman in his prime signed to a sweet heart deal, and he's been that for 3-4 seasons now proving he's not a flash in the pan.

Yet you dismiss him in a heartbeat saying Tampa wouldn't even look at that offer?

Couldn't disagree more.

I meant your dramatic responses when someone disagrees with your opinion. Like OMG, someone disagrees with meon the internet.

Anyway, on topic, as a 21 year old, Drouin outscored every winger on the Flames not named Gaudreau. Not to mention that Brodie didn't have the greatest season or playoffs last season and doesn't really fit their salary structure or needs.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by robaur

Drouin is pretty effing good. His game has grown a lot since he was drafted.

A Drouin, Bennett, Tkachuk line would be awesome to see progress (assuming Tkachuk on the RW).

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I meant your dramatic responses when someone disagrees with your opinion. Like OMG, someone disagrees with meon the internet.

Yeah, don't really do that either.

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Anyway, on topic, as a 21 year old, Drouin outscored every winger on the Flames not named Gaudreau. Not to mention that Brodie didn't have the greatest season or playoffs last season and doesn't really fit their salary structure or needs.

Salary structure and needs I can see, you made it seem like he wasn't even close to being worth Drouin, which isn't even close to being true.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

I wouldn't even do a straight across Brodie for Drouin trade let alone add to it.


Drouin is overrated and still has a lot to learn in the defensive zone. He is also very soft, don't know how the poster called him a grinder, that couldn't be further from the truth.

He's not a grinder but he's not soft either. He was a beast in the playoffs a couple years ago.

He's a legit top line winger. If he was a right shot it would be a perfect fit but even as a lefty If the price was right he would be a good fit IMO.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

He's not a grinder but he's not soft either. He was a beast in the playoffs a couple years ago.

He's a legit top line winger. If he was a right shot it would be a perfect fit but even as a lefty If the price was right he would be a good fit IMO.

The Drouin is soft argument is handy though because it allows you to weed out who has actually followed his career and which opinions to ignore.

It's like posters on HFBoards that think Bennett is soft because he couldn't do a pull-up.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Sorry, I love Brodie, but I would trade him for Drouin. The Bolts don't even look at that offer though.

Look at comparibles. It's rare to see a team trade established top pairing defenseman that are signed a on good a deals are, but when they are, they usually do better than a one-time 50pt small winger who quit on his contract because he didn't get ice time and is now (apparently) asking for 6 million dollars

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

I wouldn't even do a straight across Brodie for Drouin trade let alone add to it.


Drouin is overrated and still has a lot to learn in the defensive zone. He is also very soft, don't know how the poster called him a grinder, that couldn't be further from the truth.

This tells me pretty clearly that you do not watch the Lightning.

If the Lightning ever proposed that trade its a pretty clear YES.

[Poe969]

There are a lot more skilled winders then there are good young top pairing dmen on good contracts. Drouin is awesome but Brodie holds more value.

Drouin will likely seek a big payday and the new top 4D will likely make more than Brodie is now so the $s don't work

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Look at comparibles. It's rare to see a team trade established top pairing defenseman that are signed a on good a deals are, but when they are, they usually do better than a one-time 50pt small winger who quit on his contract because he didn't get ice time and is now (apparently) asking for 6 million dollars

I remember when there was a similar claim about Hamilton, but most people would do that trade again. And most "rumours" have a bit of bull sprinkled in anyway, but I assume Treliving would do any due diligence.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by CGY12

This tells me pretty clearly that you do not watch the Lightning.

If the Lightning ever proposed that trade its a pretty clear YES.

Why is it a clear yes to gut the defense for a one dimensional winger?

[Nsd1]

I'd love to add Drouin but if the Flames were to trade Brodie or Hamilton, who would replace them? I see people looking to sign Alzner but in no way is he better or even at the same level as Brodie or Hamilton. Some Caps fans were happy that he's not in the line up right now and that Schmidt is playing instead.

[David Struch]

To Lightning:

Oliver Kylington
Adam Fox
'17 1st

To Flames:

Jonathan Drouin

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by David Struch

To Lightning:

Oliver Kylington
Adam Fox
'17 1st

To Flames:

Jonathan Drouin

Two average prospects and a mid first round pick? Why on earth would the Lightning do this? Even for an overrated Drouin.

[Wingman17]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Two average prospects and a mid first round pick? Why on earth would the Lightning do this? Even for an overrated Drouin.

That's about the same package we gave up to get Dougie Hamilton, less development time. Not that far off if the lightning aren't going to be able to extend Drouin.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Two average prospects and a mid first round pick? Why on earth would the Lightning do this? Even for an overrated Drouin.

Two average prospects? C'mon.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Two average prospects? C'mon.

Yes, do you really think Kylington and Fox are sure fire prospects? Especially ones that'll get you an already established NHLer? They're average prospects to anyone who isn't biased by cheering for the Flames.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Yes, do you really think Kylington and Fox are sure fire prospects? Especially ones that'll get you an already established NHLer? They're average prospects to anyone who isn't biased by cheering for the Flames.

Adam Fox just put up one of the most impressive freshman seasons in recent history, he has value. Oliver Kylington entered the AHL as an 18 year old and has been progressing nicely. They're good prospects, don't undervalue them - especially in the NHL where high value is placed on puck moving d-men.

@coreypronman
Adam Fox's-CGY production for an 18 year old college defenseman stacks up pretty decent historically. Best PPG in decades. @eliteprospects

Spoiler!

[Roof-Daddy]

Kylington just had two very good seasons in the AHL, especially for an 18 and 19 year old.

Adam Fox just had a historic freshman NCAA season.

These are not "average" prospects.