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Old 08-19-2014, 03:47 PM   #21
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I am working a 9-5 so I can pay off my house so I don't have to poop in the woods. I am doing it because I DONT WANT TO POOP IN THE WOODS.

Am I a MGTOW?
No, you don't NEED to not poop in the woods, you only want to not poop in the woods.
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I too, struggle daily with the oppressive tyranny of women who try to act like my equal.
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Even if your not MGTOW DON'T GET MARRIED. Marriage is bondage...Why men give away their leverage, I will never know.
I'm married. What exactly is it that I now can't leverage?
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Even if your not MGTOW DON'T GET MARRIED. Marriage is bondage...Why men give away their leverage, I will never know.
That's BS also.

Marriage is what some people want, and a lot of people make it work well. My folks have been happily married for 50+ years, and it bothers the hell out of them I decided to take the route I did. But they realise it is what will make me happy.
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I actually subscribe to a similar mentality.

I have seen too many men get jerked around in divorces, couples living utterly miserable lives just to keep some sort of family unit image, couples leveraging children as pawns in divorce and I have had a couple pretty brutal experiences with women myself. One that cost me close to $50k for being a 'nice guy'.

I don't dislike women though, I love them. I don't have a misogynistic bone in my body. But I only let women get as close as casual dating, and I date a lot. That is how I plan to live my life for the foreseeable future. I will not let anyone, man or woman, dictate anything I do anymore, and will make zero compromises. Take me as I am, or don't bother at all, and I forward the same courtesy to anyone I am dating. Don't make a single compromise for me either. And that is made clear right from the start. And I have never been happier.

Wake up and want a new motorcycle? Done by noon.

Want to smoke a giant fat cigar in your living room? Light it up.

Want to go camping with your buddies at the last minute? I'll bring the beer.

Thinking of booking a trip to Vegas for no other reason than 'something to do'? I'm leaving tomorrow.

In my late 20's and early 30's, friends would give me these weird sympathetic speeches about how "One day you will find the right girl." Now I am approaching 40, most of them would do anything to escape their burnt out, sexless marriages, and mountains of brutal debt trying to be the ultimate provider. Meanwhile, I am sitting in an all but paid off bachelor pad, and have all the time in the world to pursue all my hobbies, or just chill out and do nothing at all if I please.

It ain't that bad at all, and I believe it will start becoming a very common trend.
I don't know, man. Sounds like you enjoy hanging out and having fun, dating, buying cool stuff, etc. I don't think that is what MGTOW is all about based on the description Photon found.
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So can two mgtow's get married? Is that acceptable as an mgtow?
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They certainly use the term mangina a lot. I don't think I hate women enough nor am I immature enough to be one of these. That's saying a lot too because I'm pretty immature.
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So can two mgtow's get married? Is that acceptable as an mgtow?
Only if you're the top.
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I'm married. What exactly is it that I now can't leverage?
You could lose your property, assets and children in a divorce.
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Even if your not MGTOW DON'T GET MARRIED. Marriage is bondage...
No, that usually stops after the wedding.
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You could lose your property, assets and children in a divorce.
Or, you could gain her property, assets, and children!
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You could lose your property, assets and children in a divorce.
Yeah, well my wife earns money and would be entitled to her share, wouldn't she? That just makes sense.

As for the kids - what's the better alternative? Protect myself from losing my kids in a divorce by not having kids?

I guess I'm just not sold on going MGTOW. Because it's stupid.
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You could lose your property, assets and children in a divorce.
If that's your perspective, the primary motivating force in your life is fear of negative repercussions. And in that case, then you actually are letting external forces dictate your lifestyle.

If you want to get married and have kids, do so. If you don't want to, don't. If you avoid getting married and having kids because people are telling you that it is a dangerous situation that compromises your masculinity, then you have ceased to be self-deterministic.

Worse, you are trying to get other people to compromise their own self-determination by (unsuccessfully) perpetuating fear.
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Or, you could gain her property, assets, and children!
Most of the time you will be the provider and it's your property, assets, and children which will be at risk. Your so clueless it's not funny women always win divorce cases.
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Most of the time you will be the provider and it's your property, assets, and children which will be at risk. Your so clueless it's not funny women always win divorce cases.

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Most of the time you will be the provider and it's your property, assets, and children which will be at risk. Your so clueless it's not funny women always win divorce cases.
No, they don't.

The norm? Sure. Always? No.
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If you avoid getting married and having kids because people are telling you that it is a dangerous situation that compromises your masculinity, then you have ceased to be self-deterministic.

Worse, you are trying to get other people to compromise their own self-determination by (unsuccessfully) perpetuating fear.
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