2017 Tennis Thread

[killer_carlson]

Canadian Gabriella Dabrowski wins mixed doubles. Makes history in process, as per tsn.

http://www.tsn.ca/dabrowski-makes-ca...h-win-1.773413

[killer_carlson]

And Milos parts ways with his coach Krajek

http://www.tsn.ca/tennis/article/rao...jicek-1.774017

[bigtmac19]

Hopefully this Murray, Wawrinka will be a good one.

Close first set, Murray wins in the tiebreak. A couple of crazy good points in the tiebreak.

I had to leave for work, so I can't watch the rest, or Rafa's match

[GirlySports]

Nadal-Thiem may not play today

[Inglewood Jack]

never let Stanimal King of the Five Setter play five sets if you want to beat him.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

And Milos parts ways with his coach Krajek

http://www.tsn.ca/tennis/article/rao...jicek-1.774017

Hmm strange timing considering Krajicek was brought in to help with the grass court season the most of anything. Considering Milos has spent the majority of the year on the sidelines, the two must really not have been working well with one another.

One has to wonder if this has anything to do with McEnroe appearing back in the fold with his camp last week? I would love to see McEnroe or Becker join the Raonic camp full time as they would really offer an edge his team is lacking right now.

[Inglewood Jack]

in the end, Milos is an atomic serve and a powerful (if not versatile) forehand, and not a whole lot else. he's done extremely well for himself but I don't think any combination of coaches is going to give him what he needs for a slam. of course that's the goal for every pro, but it's not exactly an equal opportunity sport when you're playing at the same time as the Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr of tennis, and another few players just below them.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Can we talk about the Stanimal hitting 81 non-ace winners against one of the great defensive players ever...on freaking clay? Extraordinary isn't a strong enough word. So exceptionally enjoyable to watch.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

in the end, Milos is an atomic serve and a powerful (if not versatile) forehand, and not a whole lot else. he's done extremely well for himself but I don't think any combination of coaches is going to give him what he needs for a slam. of course that's the goal for every pro, but it's not exactly an equal opportunity sport when you're playing at the same time as the Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr of tennis, and another few players just below them.

Maybe three years ago that would be accurate, today not so much. His net play has become a very legitimate weapon to compliment his lethal service and deadly forehand. Yes, he is limited by his backhand and always will be, but when it comes down to it, players like Del Potro, Cilic and Murray have all been able to win Majors without having all the tools legends like Federer, Djokovic, Nadal and Stan have.

Milos could certainly win Wimbledon over the next 3-4 years and potentially one of the hard-court slams if he keeps improving and manages to stay healthy. He simply needs a little help in his draws so as to not end up having to beat 2-3 of the top 5 players A guy like this would not be fairly consistently making Q's and Semis of 1000 level and major tournaments if they were not capable of it.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Can we talk about the Stanimal hitting 81 non-ace winners against one of the great defensive players ever...on freaking clay? Extraordinary isn't a strong enough word. So exceptionally enjoyable to watch.

I'd like to think Stan can give Nadal a run for his money with a performance like that but I don't think anyone is even on the same page as far as clay goes. Nadal is about to steam roll one of the best players on tour this year to add to his already impressive destruction of the draw.

I'll be rooting for Stan. If he does manage to win it would be one of the most impressive defeats in recent memory.

[GirlySports]

how about a one-handed backhand for Milos? more slice
i know it would be tough to switch now.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

how about a one-handed backhand for Milos? more slice
i know it would be tough to switch now.

I feel like this would be far too large of a departure from his current attacking style to pay off. There are really only a handful of players on tour that can attack effectively with one handed backhands. Milos doesn't have the finesse from that side to pull it off in my opinion. He's best fit to continue to improve his current repertoire and focus on the grass/hardcourt events that he has the best chance of winning.

The next 2-3 months will tell a lot about where his game is going now that he appears to be healthy again.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Maybe three years ago that would be accurate, today not so much. His net play has become a very legitimate weapon to compliment his lethal service and deadly forehand. Yes, he is limited by his backhand and always will be, but when it comes down to it, players like Del Potro, Cilic and Murray have all been able to win Majors without having all the tools legends like Federer, Djokovic, Nadal and Stan have.

Andy has made 9 slam finals and won 3 of them, so I wouldn't lump him in with the one-slam wonders. if you mean that Milos might be able to sneak in a major the way Delpo and Cilic did, i.e. a single hot run where everything miraculously came together, then sure I guess. but a legit threat that's going to be in that position multiple times? I don't see it.

he might be able to wait for the Big 4 to age out and exploit a small window there, but guys like Zverev and Thiem are improving every week, and don't have the built-in deficiencies that Milos does. the guy just doesn't look that smooth or natural on court to me. given that, #3 in the world is an amazing accomplishment and I don't find myself wanting more out of him.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

Andy has made 9 slam finals and won 3 of them, so I wouldn't lump him in with the one-slam wonders. if you mean that Milos might be able to sneak in a major the way Delpo and Cilic did, i.e. a single hot run where everything miraculously came together, then sure I guess. but a legit threat that's going to be in that position multiple times? I don't see it.

he might be able to wait for the Big 4 to age out and exploit a small window there, but guys like Zverev and Thiem are improving every week, and don't have the built-in deficiencies that Milos does. the guy just doesn't look that smooth or natural on court to me. given that, #3 in the world is an amazing accomplishment and I don't find myself wanting more out of him.

Keep in mind Andy was essentially one of those guys that just couldn't quite get there until 3-4 years ago as well. He has also been at it much longer than Milos and certainly has a few deficiencies in his game. His service and net play are very exploitable which is why he is not currently running away with the number one ranking while the rest of the field is somewhat floundering. He's arrived where he is solely on the back of hard work and maximizing all of his strengths (returning, ground strokes, determination). I see many similarities between his career arc and that of Raonic and that is the need to lose a few big matches before they figure it out. Milos certainly has limitations but nothing nearly as limiting to keep him from winning a slam.

One doesn't merely sneak in a major as you say either. Both Cilic and Del Potro won on the backs of playing excellent tennis for long stretches of time. They were never number one players but you don't need to be in order to win slams. Say what you want about the up and comers, they're all a dime a dozen until they prove they can hold a ranking for more than a few months at a time.

[GirlySports]

Women's final into a 3rd set. Ostapenko has hit 40 winners. Halep just hanging on.

[Mango]

What a scene with Ostapenko winning. Great match!

[GirlySports]

hope she goes far, women's tennis needs that kind of play instead of chokers in the top 4.

1 match point boom, it was over. 54 winners!

[Senator Clay Davis]

So ummm...yeah she can crush her forehand



It seems like she still has a lot of room to improve too, can get better at serving, better at constructing points and not just going for it, better at the net. But when you have natural power like she has and the guts to go for broke, she might win many more majors in the era of players playing it safe. Or she might be a one and done who had the two weeks of her life. I guess we're about to find out.

[GirlySports]

no contest, cakewalk to the championship for Nadal

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Andresscu/Branstine won the girl's doubles yesterday

[bigtmac19]

Wow that was a cakewalk. Not fun to watch