01-06-2017, 01:33 PM
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#61
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Thanked for the 1st sentence only.
On the 2nd: Why would you even start that conversation? Flames don't need Matt Duchene right now to begin with. He'd be nice to have if we could pick him up in a fair market UFA bidding process, but that's not in cards. If it means giving up one of our two top young defensemen; we don't have that many to give away, so why bother?
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Oh I definitely agree - I wouldn't do that deal. All I'm saying is that is what it would cost. Just doesn't make sense for the Flames.
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01-06-2017, 01:37 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Thanked for the 1st sentence only.
On the 2nd: Why would you even start that conversation? Flames don't need Matt Duchene right now to begin with. He'd be nice to have if we could pick him up in a fair market UFA bidding process, but that's not in cards. If it means giving up one of our two top young defensemen; we don't have that many to give away, so why bother?
P.S. I think the only logical trade for Duchene is Trouba. Makes sense for both Avs and Jets (although cap hit is big and will need to be dealt with). I am sure there is a discussion going on there somehwere about it...
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IMO the Jets are already forward heavy in depth and I imagine they would want a quality defenseman or defensive prospect in return for Trouba.
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01-06-2017, 01:41 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
IMO the Jets are already forward heavy in depth and I imagine they would want a quality defenseman or defensive prospect in return for Trouba.
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It would give them two strong 1st lines centered by Duchene and Scheifele, which would make them very dangerous.
P.S> LOL. Just did a search, found this: http://nhlnumbers.com/2016/6/20/shou...r-matt-duchene 
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01-06-2017, 03:20 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
It would give them two strong 1st lines centered by Duchene and Scheifele, which would make them very dangerous.
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Bryan Little is not exactly chopped liver. He has 0.75 P/G over the last three seasons. Duchene has 0.72 P/G over that span.
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01-06-2017, 03:32 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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I agree. But it's like Burke says: "a good player's stats on a bad team will look bad too".
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01-06-2017, 04:38 PM
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#66
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First Line Centre
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Jets need defense. Little is underated for sure.
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01-06-2017, 05:09 PM
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#67
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Section 120
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If the conversation doesn't start without Brodie or Hamilton then who in the league can start a conversation? In terms of current ability + future potential Brodie and Hamilton are both top 15 defencemen in the NHL. Both players also have manageable salaries and term.
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01-06-2017, 05:22 PM
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#68
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First Line Centre
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How much do you think the Flames resign Versteeg for? He's been super productive, but he's always an injury concern.
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01-06-2017, 06:27 PM
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#69
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
How much do you think the Flames resign Versteeg for? He's been super productive, but he's always an injury concern.
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The term is what concerns me. I believe he turns 31 at the end of the season.
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01-06-2017, 06:28 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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If Versteeg's next contract doesn't come under $2 million you move on.
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01-06-2017, 07:05 PM
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#71
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First Line Centre
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Versteeg has 18pts in 28gp, which is a 52pt season when fully healthy, and is 3rd best on the Flames for ppg pace.
Under 2 million seems low
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01-06-2017, 07:08 PM
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#72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
Versteeg has 18pts in 28gp, which is a 52pt season when fully healthy, and is 3rd best on the Flames for ppg pace.
Under 2 million seems low
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Good.
Enjoy a low value contract and move on.
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01-06-2017, 09:49 PM
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#73
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Fowler is currently having the best offensive start to a season in his career. Brodie is having his worst in a few seasons. His fiancée was just diagnosed with a terrible disease.
+/- isn't a good individual stat.
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I thought that Kermitology informed us that his friends wife has MS and it's not that bad so therefore TJ wouldn't be suffering any reduced play due to his fiancée's diagnosis?
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01-06-2017, 09:51 PM
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#74
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
Versteeg has 18pts in 28gp, which is a 52pt season when fully healthy, and is 3rd best on the Flames for ppg pace.
Under 2 million seems low
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Comsidering he was on his way to europe i think 2 mil is good for both sides
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01-06-2017, 10:59 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
Comsidering he was on his way to europe i think 2 mil is good for both sides
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You realize other teams will be allowed to make offers, right?
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01-06-2017, 11:02 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
You realize other teams will be allowed to make offers, right?
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go for it, Flames can't pay him more than that
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01-06-2017, 11:06 PM
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#77
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First Line Centre
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The last time a guy played well on a tryout was overpaid big time by the Flames, not suggesting Versteeg is another Raymond but they have to be careful here
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01-07-2017, 12:06 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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I'm done with handing out big contracts. I'm ready for Tre to go full Yzerman on the next signings. Our top guys continue to not be top contributors. Our '3rd line' and Chad Johnsons freak run are the only reasons were in the mix.
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01-07-2017, 12:09 AM
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#79
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First Line Centre
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Setoguchi was the tryout, Raymond was the free agent signing that was meant to replace Cammalleri
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01-07-2017, 12:44 AM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio
Setoguchi was the tryout, Raymond was the free agent signing that was meant to replace Cammalleri
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And Setoguchi didn't get much money.
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