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Old 06-19-2017, 08:06 AM   #141
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Hearing that VGK touched base with the Kris Russell camp though nothing serious at this point. VGK will check in with several UFAs...
LV will have a lot of 4-5 defencemen available that are (a) cheaper, (b) younger and (c) under contract. If they are looking for an older UFA defenceman I'm betting it will be an Engelland type.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:21 AM   #142
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I'm curious to see if VGK take a run at an RFA like Leon Driasitl. Why wouldn't they? they are going to be FLUSH with picks, and he could be a cornerstone to build on.
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I'm curious to see if VGK take a run at an RFA like Leon Driasitl. Why wouldn't they? they are going to be FLUSH with picks, and he could be a cornerstone to build on.
That's a real interesting perspective.

By stockpiling picks through pre-arranged deals with teams, they may have the picks to target a few RFAs

Draisatal and Bennett gets you solid up the middle for the next 7 years.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:23 AM   #144
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I'm curious to see if VGK take a run at an RFA like Leon Driasitl. Why wouldn't they? they are going to be FLUSH with picks, and he could be a cornerstone to build on.
Like an offersheet?

He's protected.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:25 AM   #145
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He's an RFA, is he not?
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:33 AM   #146
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Like an offersheet?

He's protected.
He's protected from the draft, but Vegas can still offer sheet him after the draft like normal.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:35 AM   #147
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He's protected from the draft, but Vegas can still offer sheet him after the draft like normal.
And he isn't going to be re-signed for quite a while because Chi-pete says he is going to negotiate with McDavid first. Draisaitl is a huge offer sheet target for any team that has offer sheet assets. At the very least it will drive up Draisaitl's contract and limit Edmonton's cap space.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:35 AM   #148
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Offer sheet must be your own picks, but yeah they will have lots of picks outside their own.
Draisaitl will get offer sheet(s), but I kind of doubt he signs one. The Habs are a good candidate as well, assuming they have their own picks, which I think they do.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:44 AM   #149
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Not sure if it has been discussed recently, but it seems that anyone who was worried about Edmonton getting a top 4 D man for Eberle might not have to be so worried.

http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-watch-w...vegas-1.782732

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Last week, David Staples of the Edmonton Journal wrote that in summary of Jordan Eberle rumours from NHL Insiders, one could deduce that the return for Eberle will not be a top-six forward or a top-four defenecman.

Instead, the Oilers are likely to receive a cheaper forward, likely a winger, who possesses less skill than Eberle.

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I keep coming back to Eberle to Dallas for No. 3 C Cody Eakin, who makes $3.8 mil if Oilers looking to add good, cheaper player
Hopefully if something like this goes down, Eakin doesn't rebound from the terrible season he had last year to produce anywhere close to what he did in the three prior years. I'm also not too stoked about the cap space it would free up for Edmonton to be able to go after someone else in free agency.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:52 AM   #150
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Offer sheet must be your own picks, but yeah they will have lots of picks outside their own.
Draisaitl will get offer sheet(s), but I kind of doubt he signs one. The Habs are a good candidate as well, assuming they have their own picks, which I think they do.
Just out of curiosity, if a team had already traded away the draft pick(s) that would be required for an offer sheet, could they compensate by sending equivalent future draft picks or would they just not be permitted to offer sheet that player?
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:05 AM   #151
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Just out of curiosity, if a team had already traded away the draft pick(s) that would be required for an offer sheet, could they compensate by sending equivalent future draft picks or would they just not be permitted to offer sheet that player?
They would have to reacquire those traded picks before they'd be allowed to sign an offer sheet. We have seen this happen in the past.

In order to sign a player to an offer sheet, you must have the required compensatory draft picks available. They must be your own picks and they must be in the next closest upcoming draft(s).

That means, if you sign an offer sheet in July 2017 where the compensation is 4 first round picks, they must be your team's own first round picks in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021. If you sign an offer sheet in July 2017 and the compensation is a first, second, and third round pick, they must be your team's own first three picks in the 2018 Draft.

There are no exceptions to the compensation rules.
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Having to surrender their OWN 1st rounder(s), for Draisatl, I think keeps Vegas/McPhee away. Huge unknown into where they finish, and could very well end up surrendering a top 3 pick.
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Just out of curiosity, if a team had already traded away the draft pick(s) that would be required for an offer sheet, could they compensate by sending equivalent future draft picks or would they just not be permitted to offer sheet that player?
Could not, it has to be your own picks.

When Burke wanted to put pressure on Boston to trade them Kessel, he had to get his own 2nd round pick back from Chicago (so he could threaten a offer sheet). Chicago held him to ransom to some extent, getting Calgary's 2nd round pick in the trade (which they used to draft Brandon Sadd).

I doubt that Vegas will give up 4 first round picks at this stage of its career.
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Here are the compensation levels for RFA offer sheets this year (go to #28):
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/3...d-dubas-leafs/

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Average Annual Value		Compensation
Under $1,295,572		Nothing
$1,295,572-$1,962,986		Third-round pick
$1,962,987-$3,925,975		Second-round pick
$3,925,976-$5,888,960		First and third-round picks
$5,888,961-$7,851,948		First, second and third-round picks
$7,851,949-$9,814,935		Two firsts, second and third-round picks
Over $9,814,935			Four first-round picks

Any team trying to get Draisaitl would probably fall into the second or third-highest compensation levels. If they really wanted to squeeze the Oilers, a five-year $7.85 million AAV offer would be the way to go.
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Any team trying to get Draisaitl would probably fall into the second or third-highest compensation levels. If they really wanted to squeeze the Oilers, a five-year $7.85 million AAV offer would be the way to go.
Yeah... but no one will (although many teams should).
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:57 AM   #156
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Not sure if it has been discussed recently, but it seems that anyone who was worried about Edmonton getting a top 4 D man for Eberle might not have to be so worried.

http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-watch-w...vegas-1.782732



Hopefully if something like this goes down, Eakin doesn't rebound from the terrible season he had last year to produce anywhere close to what he did in the three prior years. I'm also not too stoked about the cap space it would free up for Edmonton to be able to go after someone else in free agency.
Don't know why Oilers wouldn't be all over something like this. It frees up cap space and they've shown they can play well and win playoff games with Eberle as a non factor.
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7years at 9.8mill would be awesome. Oilers would be very hard pressed to match, and eats into vegas' cap room going forward (don't forget they are in our division). Edmonton receives a couple firsts a second and 3rd.
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Yeah... but no one will (although many teams should).
There's really no point. Edmonton re-signs him no matter what and by and large, most GM's aren't looking to just inflict damage on their peers.
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7years at 9.8mill would be awesome. Oilers would be very hard pressed to match, and eats into vegas' cap room going forward (don't forget they are in our division). Edmonton receives a couple firsts a second and 3rd.
All offer sheets over 5 years are still considered only 5 years for compensation purposes, so that contract would cost four 1st round picks.
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Not sure if it has been discussed recently, but it seems that anyone who was worried about Edmonton getting a top 4 D man for Eberle might not have to be so worried.

http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-watch-w...vegas-1.782732



Hopefully if something like this goes down, Eakin doesn't rebound from the terrible season he had last year to produce anywhere close to what he did in the three prior years. I'm also not too stoked about the cap space it would free up for Edmonton to be able to go after someone else in free agency.
Looking at what plagued Dallas for the last three years, could they acquire a player that helps them deal with that less than Jordan Eberle?
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