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Old 06-22-2016, 03:19 PM   #41
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Now this is an interesting twist:

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The NHL expects to open a window where the Las Vegas team can make trades/transactions before expansion draft. That's never happened before.
never happen before?! Weren't there trades ahead of the 1999 and 2000 expansion drafts where teams could flip assets to the new teams in exchange for their agreement not to select player X?

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San Jose traded Jan Caloun, a ninth-round pick (Martin Paroulek) in the 2000 NHL Entry Draft, and a conditional pick (Aaron Johnson) in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft to Columbus on June 11, 2000, after the Blue Jackets agreed not to select Evgeni Nabokov.

that was two weeks before the actual expansion draft.
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Even if left unprotected I still think Gillies would likely be safe. Can't imagine him being the 3rd best unprotected tender in the entire league.
A lot can change in one year. And LV will be looking for a young guy who they think will do well under a more experienced starter/s. Also, they will be looking at $$ and how to work the cap.
Clarity on his status please, NHL.
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:19 PM   #43
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Not sure why everyone is so worried about Wideman's NMC. Whether you need to protect it or not you just request that he waive it. There is no reason he would refuse as he has no obligation to sign there even if they actually picked him.

Besides, what is the worst Vegas could do to him? Fly him down for a little trip to convince him to sign ala the Coyotes and Goligoski...
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:24 PM   #44
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Interesting wrinkle:

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Las Vegas has to reach the salary cap floor for 2017-18. They'll have to take at least $48.3M in salary during the expansion draft.
I'd guess that means of any task convinces a high priced NMC player to waive they'll take him to get to the floor
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:26 PM   #45
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I'd guess that means of any task convinces a high priced NMC player to waive they'll take him to get to the floor
well in the OP it says "60-100% of the salary cap". 60% of next year's cap ($73m) is actually $43.8m, not $48.3m.
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:27 PM   #46
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Even if left unprotected I still think Gillies would likely be safe. Can't imagine him being the 3rd best unprotected tender in the entire league.
This is my thoughts as well, but my hesitation is that there is no way that Las Vegas is actually going to pick the three best Goaltenders available. Since one will have to be sent down, they will want a prospect there, and not someone on a big contract.
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Even still, building a team from 8th forwards and 4th D's isn't likely to be that high
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:36 PM   #48
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In the last draft, didn't the new teams get traded different assets in return for not selecting a player in the expansion? Or something along those lines?
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:39 PM   #49
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I'd guess that means of any task convinces a high priced NMC player to waive they'll take him to get to the floor
'Hey Vegas! Look at this, Matt Stajan will be a good veteran leader for you, great in the room, and he'll help get to that cap floor!'
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:45 PM   #50
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Didn't Minnesota select 6 goalies and trade a few for picks (Mike Vernon)?

Obviously not an option for LV.

Also looks like the NHL doesn't want LV to draft a tonne of young players. They want them to try to win quickly.
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Didn't Minnesota select 6 goalies and trade a few for picks (Mike Vernon)?

Obviously not an option for LV.

Also looks like the NHL doesn't want LV to draft a tonne of young players. They want them to try to win quickly.
Why not an option? They need to select 14 f, 9d, 3g and they have to select 1 player from each team.

Gives them 4 spots to pick whatever position they want.
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So is Gillies exempt?
Even if he isn't, I wouldn't be that worried, there will be many goalies available to distract Las Vegas. I'm sure we will lose a defenseman, not a goalie. I wouldn't get too attached to Jyrki Jokkipakka.
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In the last draft, didn't the new teams get traded different assets in return for not selecting a player in the expansion? Or something along those lines?
Yup. Officially, the trades are "player x for future considerations". But under the table is "we'll trade you player x for a promise not to select unprotected player y".
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:52 PM   #54
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Even if he isn't, I wouldn't be that worried, there will be many goalies available to distract Las Vegas. I'm sure we will lose a defenseman, not a goalie. I wouldn't get too attached to Jyrki Jokkipakka.
actually since they have to choose 3 I think it increases the odds that Gillies gets taken if he is exposed. The 3rd goalie will be for their AHL club and having one that is waiver exempt with high potential would be perfect for them.
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Stajan, Bouma, Jooris, Jokipakka, Ortio. Your 16-17 Flames expansion bait.
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Stajan, Bouma, Jooris, Jokipakka, Ortio. Your 16-17 Flames expansion bait.
Bouma will be a UFA, Jokipakka a RFA and who knows if even Jooris or Ortio will even be Flames this coming season.
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Old 06-22-2016, 04:01 PM   #57
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Will the protected lists be made public? Would be hella fun to do a mock expansion draft
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Is there a limit to how many players can be picked from one team?
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Will the protected lists be made public? Would be hella fun to do a mock expansion draft
I think it will be up to each individual club to publicly release their lists like they do with qualifying offers
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Is there a limit to how many players can be picked from one team?
Regulations Relating to Expansion Franchise
* The Las Vegas franchise must select one player from each presently existing club for a total of 30 players (not including additional players who may be acquired as the result of violations of the Expansion Draft rules).
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