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Old 05-03-2017, 02:20 PM   #241
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Agreed but they might not bridge Bennett (as discussed in that thread). Would you give Bennett $3 on a long term gamble? Maybe.
No way Bennett signs for $3M per for a long term deal it won't happen. If he goes long term the Flames pay for potential and it is in the $4.5-$5.5M range on a 6-8 year deal. Personally I don't see the Flames taking that risk and I think Bennett is the type of player that would bet on himself and take a 2-3 year bridge around $2.5-$3M per

Bennett had a sophomore slump but still put up 36pts as a 19 year old rookie those numbers are not bad
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:25 PM   #242
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Let's throw everything into a blender. How would this roster shape up?

Tkachuk - Monahan - Brouwer
Bouma - Backlund - Lazar
Gaudreau - Bennett - Ferland
Versteeg - Jankowski - Frolik
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Giordano - Stone
Kulak - Hamilton
Kylington - Brodie
Bartkowski

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Old 05-03-2017, 02:39 PM   #243
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No way Bennett signs for $3M per for a long term deal it won't happen. If he goes long term the Flames pay for potential and it is in the $4.5-$5.5M range on a 6-8 year deal. Personally I don't see the Flames taking that risk and I think Bennett is the type of player that would bet on himself and take a 2-3 year bridge around $2.5-$3M per

Bennett had a sophomore slump but still put up 36pts as a 19 year old rookie those numbers are not bad
Yeah, as I typed I thought $3 was really light for a long term deal. The Flames would be all over that and Bennett fires his agent.
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:58 PM   #244
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Let's throw everything into a blender. How would this roster shape up?

Tkachuk - Monahan - Brouwer
Bouma - Backlund - Lazar
Gaudreau - Bennett - Ferland
Versteeg - Jankowski - Frolik
Vey

Giordano - Stone
Kulak - Hamilton
Kylington - Brodie
Bartkowski

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So you are going to give your best offensive player 3rd line icetime? I don't think so.
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:09 PM   #245
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So you are going to give your best offensive player 3rd line icetime? I don't think so.
Did... you read the top of the post? I was just mixing up the team's lines, the order matters not.
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:21 PM   #246
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Maybe he meant raises to that amount. That's a bit more feasible.
Yes, perhaps the numbers may be a bit high for Bennett's bridge deal, and maybe Ferland is a tad too high also?

Gaudreau (6,750,000) - Monahan (6,375,000) - Tkachuk (925,000)
Jankowski (925,000) - Backlund (3,575,000) - Frolik (4,300,000)
Ferland (2,000,000) - Bennett (3,000,000) - Chiasson (840,000)
Lazar (874,125) - Stajan (3,125,000) - Brouwer (4,500,000)
Bouma (2,200,000) - Hamilton (612,500)

Giordano (6,750,000) - Hamilton (5,750,000)
Brodie (4,650,400) - ______
Kulak (660,000) - Andersson (650,400)
Bartkowski (612,500)

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Rittich (874,125)

Salary Cap: 76 million
Bonuses/Buyout (Raymond) $1,570,000
Total Cap Hit: $61,135,317
Cap Space available: $14,864,683
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:44 PM   #247
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Love Stajan, but I'm going to pretty disappointed if one of our young centers aren't able to push him out of the line up next season by simply being better than he is now.

Monahan
Backlund
Bennett


Assuming that's the top 3, at least one of Jankowski, Lazar or Hamilton need to be better than Stajan next season
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:57 PM   #248
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Might as well take a swing at it with Smith now.

Stajan to Vegas
Still need to drop one forward.
Went with the re-signing Johnson rumor.

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Old 06-24-2017, 02:50 PM   #249
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Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Lazar - Backlund - Frolik
Tkachuk - Bennett - Versteeg
Stajan - Jankowski - Brouwer
Bouma

Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Stone - Kulak/Andersson

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Old 06-24-2017, 03:22 PM   #250
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Gaudreau-Monahan-Prybl
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Bennett-Lazar
Stajan-Jankowski-Brouwer
Hathaway

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hamonic
Kulak-Andersson
Wotherspoon

Smith
Rittich

I'd be comfortable with that, and gilles getting tonnes of time in the AHL.

Also, after reading a couple of toronto blogs, I feel comfortable in saying Prybl is the next Jagr. I think that's how prospect evaluation is done.
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Old 06-24-2017, 03:30 PM   #251
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Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Micheal Ferland
Matthew Tkachuk - Sam Bennett - Justin Williams
Michael Frolik - Mikael Backlund - Curtis Lazar
Matt Stajan - Mark Jankowski - Alex Chiasson / Troy Brouwer
Familton

Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton
TJ Brodie - Travis Hamonic
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone / Rasmus Andersson
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Tkachuk - Monahan - Gaudreau
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Versteeg - Bennett - Ferland
Brouwer - Lazar - Iginla
F. Hamilton, Hathaway

Trade Stajan
Bury Bouma
Chiasson walks

Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Andersson - Stone

Smith
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Old 06-24-2017, 03:39 PM   #253
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Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - James Neal
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Michael Frolik
Micheal Ferland - Sam Bennett - Curtis Lazar
Matt Stajan - Mark Jankowski - Troy Brouwer

Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton
T.J. Brodie - Travis Hamonic
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone

Mike Smith
David Rittich

Neal is probably wishful thinking, but who knows... Marleau or Williams instead perhaps...
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:22 PM   #254
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Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - James Neal
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Michael Frolik
Micheal Ferland - Sam Bennett - Curtis Lazar
Matt Stajan - Mark Jankowski - Troy Brouwer

Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton
T.J. Brodie - Travis Hamonic
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone

Mike Smith
David Rittich

Neal is probably wishful thinking, but who knows... Marleau or Williams instead perhaps...
Not a bad team at all! Switch Neal for Radulov and I'm with you (although getting Neal would be nice too, if Radulov is not available).

Also, no way they're letting Lazar play on the 3rd while Brouwer plays 4th. I mean, he's overpaid, yes, but he played better than a 4th liner.

Johnny Gaudreau - Sean Monahan - Alexander Radulov
Matthew Tkachuk - Mikael Backlund - Michael Frolik
Micheal Ferland - Sam Bennett - Troy Brouwer
Matt Stajan - Mark Jankowski - Curtis Lazar

Mark Giordano - Dougie Hamilton
T.J. Brodie - Travis Hamonic
Brett Kulak - Michael Stone

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Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bonino - Bennett - Brouwer
Jankowski - Stajan - Bouma
Thorburn

Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Kulak - Andersson
Bartkowski

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Old 06-24-2017, 06:38 PM   #256
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^Is he? Are there any teams left who need a starting goaltender? Given that, how many teams are willing to give him money/term? Is it outside the realm of possibility he takes 1 year 3 million? And really, which of the following goaltending tandems would you be the most comfortable going into the season with:

Smith - Johnson; Smith - Rittich; Smith - Elliott; Smith - Gillies

I mean, I'm still kinda hoping for Steve Mason, but with Smith here for 4+ million that seems more unlikely than resigning Elliott.
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Old 06-24-2017, 06:52 PM   #258
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Yes because the 3rd round pick that the Flames would need to give St. Louis was traded to Arizona (even though that will end up being a 2nd).
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Old 06-24-2017, 06:54 PM   #259
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Right, completely forgot about that pick.
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How much do you want to pay for Bonino? Isn't he that typical Stanley Cup playoff performer that gets severely overpaid in free agency?
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