2024/2025 Trade Rumours and Speculation thread

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Isn't there several veteran guys in this position though? This statement could apply to Backlund, Coleman, Kadri etc.

The Flames have enough of vets they need to keep happy, that I'm not sure they won't try to sell them the dream of trying to compete next season.

Will they accommodate all of the vets that feel that way?

Coleman and Kadri have won a Cup and are more focused on where they want their family to be, it's different priorities. I think Backlund is kind of the same, he is putting location and legacy with the team over cup chasing. Markstrom likes Calgary but things have changed since he signed here. Team isn't competitive, the best friend that helped convince him to come here has moved on, and there is a young guy waiting to steal his starts. Combine that with his age and there is pretty much zero reason for Markstrom to stay in Calgary.

[AustinL_NHL]

I could see Backlund wanting to move on.

He was quoted as knowing his best years were behind him and that he wanted to play for a competitive team to chase a cup, then signed the extension getting the C and thinking it was gonna be a competitive season.

With how the season transpired and how the future is looking, Backlund's legacy as Flames captain isn't going to be nearly to the level he/we were expecting/hoping, so maybe that also changes his mind a bit on wanting to stay.

That's just be trying to be inside Backlund's brain for a sec and not dissing diss' info

Definitely a player you're happy to keep around if he wants to stay.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

I could see Backlund wanting to move on.

He was quoted as knowing his best years were behind him and that he wanted to play for a competitive team to chase a cup, then signed the extension getting the C and thinking it was gonna be a competitive season.

With how the season transpired and how the future is looking, Backlund's legacy as Flames captain isn't going to be nearly to the level he/we were expecting/hoping, so maybe that also changes his mind a bit on wanting to stay.

That's just be trying to be inside Backlund's brain for a sec and not dissing diss' info

Definitely a player you're happy to keep around if he wants to stay.

Sure, that was a locker clean up date last year. Since their has been the King Clancy win, and the extension/captaincy, and passing Gio for second all time in Games Played.

If my man wanted to cup chase, he doesn't sign that extension.

[Muta]

I'd be fine trading Backlund if he wanted to go, even after his recent extension. It's nice to have him as a captain, but Kadri, Coleman or Weegar in that role would be more than sufficient too.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Sure, that was a locker clean up date last year. Since their has been the King Clancy win, and the extension/captaincy, and passing Gio for second all time in Games Played.

If my man wanted to cup chase, he doesn't sign that extension.

I don't see him being an offseason trade...but with 1.3 years left next trade deadline...I think it could be something that happens.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Sure, that was a locker clean up date last year. Since their has been the King Clancy win, and the extension/captaincy, and passing Gio for second all time in Games Played.

If my man wanted to cup chase, he doesn't sign that extension.

Like I said, I don't think he foresaw his extension kicking in on the 1st year of a retool/rebuild.

Maybe not this offseason, but could definitely be trade bait in the final couple years of his deal. Especially if he has a mindset change (if he hasn't already) and wants a chance to win.

[Goriders]

I think

Markstrom and Mangiapane are leaving.
They will get a center back for Markstrom
They will get picks for Mangiapane
Okhotiuk will not be resigned
Greer will not be resigned
Kylington will be resigned


Kuzmenko Kadri Pospisil
Huberdeau Sharangovich Zary
Coleman Backlund Coronato
Hunt Rooney Duehr

Pelletier
TBC center

Weegar Anderson
Kylington TBC
Miromanov Pachal

Gilbert

Wolf
Vlader

But anything could happen really. Really, this team should have no untouchables. None that I see at least.

[Jay Random]

I think you're pretty much right, Goriders.

One small change: Gilbert is UFA, but Hanley has another year on his deal. For that reason alone, I imagine Hanley is more probable as the 7D.

[Mindtravellee]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I think

Markstrom and Mangiapane are leaving.
They will get a center back for Markstrom
They will get picks for Mangiapane
Okhotiuk will not be resigned
Greer will not be resigned
Kylington will be resigned


Kuzmenko Kadri Pospisil
Huberdeau Sharangovich Zary
Coleman Backlund Coronato
Hunt Rooney Duehr

Pelletier
TBC center

Weegar Anderson
Kylington TBC
Miromanov Pachal

Gilbert

Wolf
Vlader

But anything could happen really. Really, this team should have no untouchables. None that I see at least.

I think they resign Okhotiuk and send him down, makes the trade pointless otherwise. We have Soloyov, Gilbert and Kuznetsov that could've played.

[Ped]

They could, but he's had 9 games and presumably could have a 10th. It's entirely possible, if not likely, that they may have seen enough to know where he slots in. If it's behind other guys, then why bother?

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I think

Okhotiuk will not be resigned
Greer will not be resigned

agree with all of your post except the above, i think they resign both.

[browntrout]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I think

Markstrom and Mangiapane are leaving.
They will get a center back for Markstrom
They will get picks for Mangiapane
Okhotiuk will not be resigned
Greer will not be resigned
Kylington will be resigned


Kuzmenko Kadri Pospisil
Huberdeau Sharangovich Zary
Coleman Backlund Coronato
Hunt Rooney Duehr

Pelletier

TBC center

Weegar Anderson
Kylington TBC
Miromanov Pachal

Gilbert

Wolf
Vlader

But anything could happen really. Really, this team should have no untouchables. None that I see at least.

The only thing I would disagree with you on would be kuzmenko, not sure Calgary wants to sign both him and sharangovich, this is roster is very transient, the future stars of this team are going to be through the next 5 years of drafting

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Ped

They could, but he's had 9 games and presumably could have a 10th. It's entirely possible, if not likely, that they may have seen enough to know where he slots in. If it's behind other guys, then why bother?

The Wranglers also have to ice a team.

If the Flames' pro scouts identified Okhotiuk as a player who had something they were interested in, they're not going to reverse that on the strength of 9 games in garbage time.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by browntrout

The only thing I would disagree with you on would be kuzmenko, not sure Calgary wants to sign both him and sharangovich, this is roster is very transient, the future stars of this team are going to be through the next 5 years of drafting

I think Sharangovich is a lock for a new contract. I really think it depends on Kuzmenko and if he plays at the pace he is currently at and what his ask is. I mean if he plays at current pace that is an elite winger who brings people to games. Does he want a full NMC? What are other teams offering? There are a lot of factors in play there.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think Sharangovich is a lock for a new contract. I really think it depends on Kuzmenko and if he plays at the pace he is currently at and what his ask is. I mean if he plays at current pace that is an elite winger who brings people to games. Does he want a full NMC? What are other teams offering? There are a lot of factors in play there.

Why would Sharongovich be a lock for a contract? I mean I think Calgary will 100% offer him one. But he's in that new NHL contract zone where solid/star players have realized there's almost zero reason to sign in their final year vs becoming a free agent and seeing what 32 teams have to offer.

He broke out at the absolute best time for his career and unless Calgary blows the doors off this summer I feel he'll likely head into his final year and bet on himself for a huge UFA contract.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Why would Sharongovich be a lock for a contract? I mean I think Calgary will 100% offer him one. But he's in that new NHL contract zone where solid/star players have realized there's almost zero reason to sign in their final year vs becoming a free agent and seeing what 32 teams have to offer.

He broke out at the absolute best time for his career and unless Calgary blows the doors off this summer I feel he'll likely head into his final year and bet on himself for a huge UFA contract.

Actually, when was the last time you saw a star player or even a really good one test free agency? It rarely happens, almost never happens with star players in the modern day NHL. Not that Sharangovich is a star player but even the teams most impactful players rarely make it to free agency at his age. If you go by history odds are he will sign an extension instead of testing the market.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by browntrout

The only thing I would disagree with you on would be kuzmenko, not sure Calgary wants to sign both him and sharangovich, this is roster is very transient, the future stars of this team are going to be through the next 5 years of drafting

Kuzmenzo will be here next year. He has another year on his contract. But in building that roster if they bring any players back assuming Markstrom and Mangiapane are traded there won’t be enough room for all of the forwards.

We are extremely light on defense though.

Like I said I literally could see anything happening in the summer

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Mindtravellee

I think they resign Okhotiuk and send him down, makes the trade pointless otherwise. We have Soloyov, Gilbert and Kuznetsov that could've played.

I don’t know. I just don’t see what they like in him. He’s in over his head.

The rest of the younger D I can see it.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Muta

I'd be fine trading Backlund if he wanted to go, even after his recent extension. It's nice to have him as a captain, but Kadri, Coleman or Weegar in that role would be more than sufficient too.

I think at this point you let Backlund do what he wants. He’s earned it.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

agree with all of your post except the above, i think they resign both.

Not sure where you fit everyone. That’s the main reason I didn’t think they would be resigned. If there was room I would definitely keep Greer. He’s got grit and that’s something we don’t have a surplus of.