08-08-2014, 02:31 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Soliciting advice: Digitizing (?) my music collection
I've finally got myself set up to convert all my CD's to digital files and to transition into purchasing music electronically.
I know most of you did this like 25 years ago, so I'm looking for advice. Any software that makes it easy to store, burn, listen to and buy music files? Do I just go with iTunes to do everything?
I'm not interested in pirating music so no need to go there.
Thanks in advance.
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08-08-2014, 02:50 PM
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I think for someone who doesn't need anything fancy, iTunes is best.
Simple and user-friendly is what Apple is made for.
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08-08-2014, 03:03 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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I use iTunes for all of that. I'm not tech savvy enough to look at other platforms.
One feature I like is the Genius Playlist - pick a song, and iTunes will create a playlist of 20 songs that fit with the song you picked.
Your collection is easily transferred to an iPod or iPad, and can be backed up in iCloud.
I don't like how iTunes seems to require a weekly download for updates.
I don't like how you can't move songs from your iPod to iTunes.
I turn off automatic syncing - go with manual.
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08-08-2014, 03:50 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Despite being one of the -if not the most- tech-savvy person I know, as well as a musician, I still prefer physical media for all my music. I still carry a CD wallet for my vehicle and my arm rest is filled with jewel cases. I've entertained thoughts of installing a 100-CD changer in the back (but they don't exist ), and the built-in 6 CD changer isn't enough.
That said, when I feel like ripping albums and making MP3 CDs (320kbps natch), I use FreeRIP because it encodes well and creates proper folder structure (Band\Album\Bandname - TrackName.mp3) for my cars video display.
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08-08-2014, 04:22 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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It probably depends what you want to listen to it on. I use iTunes and an iPod (mostly plugged into the car - I listen to CDs at home). This is a simple solution but might lock you into the Apple ecosystem unless you're tech savvy or want to re-digitize everything if you switch down the road. MP3 and similar formats from other software are more universal and iTunes can read them as well - might be slightly more work/more complex to do the ripping but there are plenty of programs that can do it such as the one PsYcNeT mentioned.
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08-08-2014, 04:30 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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m4a files are pretty widely supported now as well, so using iTunes isn't as much a lockin for music as it used to be.
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08-08-2014, 04:31 PM
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If you use Itunes make sure you use one of the lossless formats like WAV, AIFF, FLAC, Apple Lossless. MP3 and some of the others are very poor quality. I have CDs, SACDs, and DVD-Audio, so far i have only converted CDs and I am working my way through very slowly.
http://lifehacker.com/5927052/whats-...e-should-i-use
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08-08-2014, 04:42 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Lossless is nice as you can keep the large lossless ones on your computer or network, and then put compressed files onto the devices (some apps support conversion when transferring like iTunes). The audible difference of compressed formats is debatable (depending on the level of compression of course).
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08-08-2014, 05:05 PM
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CP's Resident DJ
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In the Gin Bin
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Still using Exact Audio Copy with the Lame codec.
Have not had any issues using the variable bitrate mode, and that is even on my full DJ rig where it should be evident.
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08-08-2014, 05:19 PM
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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I prefer listening to CD's in my vehicle and have a CD wallet to store my CD's or burned discs in.
All of my music (89.8 GB) is stored on my computer as WAV files and I have then categorised by genre. When I need to make compilation discs I use Roxio Creater to burn my music and then save my playlist in a separate folder.
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08-08-2014, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
If you use Itunes make sure you use one of the lossless formats like WAV, AIFF, FLAC, Apple Lossless. MP3 and some of the others are very poor quality. I have CDs, SACDs, and DVD-Audio, so far i have only converted CDs and I am working my way through very slowly.
http://lifehacker.com/5927052/whats-...e-should-i-use
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Not only is a high bit-rate MP3 indistinguishable from Lossless, but DVD-Audio and SACD were pretty much marketing gimmicks, as they too are indistinguishable from a regular CD.
Convert the stuff into MP3s, it's the most versatile and widely accepted format. It'll make your life easy.
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08-08-2014, 07:59 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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The simpler way would be to download all your albums using torrents, but I suppose that is technically illegal. Though isn't "digitizing" your CDs illegal as well? If the result is the same does it matter?
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08-08-2014, 08:11 PM
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Had an idea!
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Maybe just use Spotify or something and forget about your physical collection?
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08-08-2014, 09:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
Not only is a high bit-rate MP3 indistinguishable from Lossless, but DVD-Audio and SACD were pretty much marketing gimmicks, as they too are indistinguishable from a regular CD.
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It depends on your ear, generally more data will provide more resolution, in many cases its like the difference between a Bluray and a DVD. If the OP does not care about that then MP3s are fine. Beyond that CDs are two channel and the other formats are 5.1, an example of this would be the "Dark Side of the Moon" SACD. That SACD kicks the crap out of the CD version.
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08-08-2014, 10:59 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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It's actually a huge waste of time. Just get Google Play for $7.99/month and have access to anything you want on your device or in the cloud in top notch quality.
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08-09-2014, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamenspiel
It depends on your ear, generally more data will provide more resolution, in many cases its like the difference between a Bluray and a DVD. If the OP does not care about that then MP3s are fine. Beyond that CDs are two channel and the other formats are 5.1, an example of this would be the "Dark Side of the Moon" SACD. That SACD kicks the crap out of the CD version.
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They actually did studies and had audio professionals (recording engineers, that sort of thing) listen to SACDs and CDs on high end equipment and the two were found to be indistinguishable. One in particular was a blind test where the audio professionals had to push a button to switch between SACD and CD. In the test, the button would activate CD, SACD, or no change at all (so that the two were not always obviously different).
In the tests, their success rate was between 35 and 50%. Meaning even professionals whose job it is to listen to and analyse sound weren't able to tell the difference between the two, as 35-50% is indicative of the same result you would get if you just guessed.
Now you know!
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08-09-2014, 09:35 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Yeah audio quality is very subjective. I always love the Coat Hanger story myself.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...html#post15412
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Originally Posted by Chill Cosby
They actually did studies and had audio professionals (recording engineers, that sort of thing) listen to SACDs and CDs on high end equipment and the two were found to be indistinguishable. One in particular was a blind test where the audio professionals had to push a button to switch between SACD and CD. In the test, the button would activate CD, SACD, or no change at all (so that the two were not always obviously different).
In the tests, their success rate was between 35 and 50%. Meaning even professionals whose job it is to listen to and analyse sound weren't able to tell the difference between the two, as 35-50% is indicative of the same result you would get if you just guessed.
Now you know!
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Link to the paper.
http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=14195
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08-09-2014, 09:43 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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10$/month for Spotify is definitely the way to go. You basically have access to everything. All sorts of options on saving offline to phones or whatever. Lots of apps on receivers, TVs, media devices.
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08-09-2014, 10:42 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Can you burn files from Spotify or Google Play to CD's?
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I am in love with Montana. For other states I have admiration, respect, recognition, even some affection, but with Montana it is love." - John Steinbeck
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08-09-2014, 11:57 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Maybe I'm just stuck in the digital past, but I still can't take the step towards subscription services. I don't know if I like the idea of renting music. Any time you cancel a subscription, that music and anything you've discovered since, is now inaccessible to you.
This might sound archaic to some, but I recommend to the OP -- get an iPod (classic 160 GB), and rip all your CD's through iTunes. Make sure you have a hard drive big enough to store all the files a decent Bitrate. Personally I think 256 is good enough but it'll depend on how it sounds to you through your speakers and headphones. Transfer all the music to the iPod, and you are good to go. Buy anything new from the iTunes store. Its just an easy, effective, centralized solution for what you want to do.
Also with an iPod you'll never have to worry about having an internet connection, moving songs on and off, the battery will last forever, and there are loads of accessories to help you use it in different situations. This is what I still use, and I think my iPod classic is still better for music than any cell phone, app or subscription. Oh, and iTunes files have no drm anymore, so the files are yours to store, duplicate, and use with any device you ever own.
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