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Old 01-18-2013, 09:05 AM   #21
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:05 AM   #22
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I've always thought shellfish were in extreme pain everyday, more than most anything else in the world.

I mean, really, their god damn skeletons are on the outside of their bodies. Their exoskeletal structures have been reversed - God was drunk when he made these poor fools.

They must wake up in the morning, all hazy-eyed and discombobulated, and once they come to . . . . ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ####tttttttt THIS SUCKKKKKKKKS OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

And that's life for them day in and day out.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:05 AM   #23
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I'm not going to eat grass and soya cause I'm supposed to feel guilty for these animals.

As long as they're killed for food, I couldn't care less.

Just like a cougar wouldn't feel one ounce of remorse if it devoured my face and nutsack.
If thats what you took out of that then I'm sorry that is not what I meant.

You are not equal to a cougar. You are a human who is capable or rather, should be capable of intelligent thought where as the couger would not.

If you owned a beef cow would you dismantle it limb by limb, keeping it alive to have the "freshest" meat?
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:07 AM   #24
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Overrated food. I'll take a steak any day of the week.
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this is from the comments to the article:

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On another note, I work in the Restaurant industry and in a cookbook - The Joy of Cooking. Its been around for 60 years, no less - on this subject they recommend that, if it bothers you, to put them in a pot of cold water and slowly heat it up because the rising water temp puts them to sleep long before it boils.


...so would it be less barbaric to steam your lobster?
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:08 AM   #26
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And humans are of greater intelligence and are cognicent that causing pain is wrong. Further, animals have no other means to survive where as you and I both do.
Aren't dolphins somewhat aware of this, too? I don't see the vegan crowd protesting dolphins. And they should. Dolphins are ######bags.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:10 AM   #27
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Straight up, the thought of causing a lobster pain bothers me quite a bit. I'd much rather kill them humanely first, then boil them.
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Overrated food. I'll take a steak any day of the week.
Yeah, I don't get it. I had fresh lobster, right out of the ocean, when I was in Belize. I ended up giving it away.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:12 AM   #29
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The same people who are against lobster cooking / meat eating due to paining the animals are likely the same as the rest of us to swat a fly, kill a wasp or step on an aunt without thinking twice.
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The same people who are against lobster cooking / meat eating due to paining the animals are likely the same as the rest of us to swat a fly, kill a wasp or step on an aunt without thinking twice.
Not really. I try not to kill bugs just for the "f" of it. I release spiders outside if I find them in my house, etc.
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The same people who are against lobster cooking / meat eating due to paining the animals are likely the same as the rest of us to swat a fly, kill a wasp or step on an aunt without thinking twice.
So you're saying this stems from poor familial relations?

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I am certain that this is a valid argument if your talking about some of the more odorous practices like Veal and Fois Gras where there is significant long term cruelty required in terms of preparation, or something like Shark Fin soup where they lop off a relatively small part of a shark and then toss it back to suffer and die. Clubbing baby seals to draw in their mothers is cruel

But if your hill to die on is lobster getting boiled its a little weird.

No matter how you do it, dying hurts, there is no peaceful falling asleep and dying, there's no perfect way to die that there's no suffering and no pain. The Brain lives on for moments after the rest of the body dies record

Is boiling cruel? Probably but so is the habit of chopping parts off of living dogs in some markets in Asia,

You state that Predators do what they do because they're predators, we do what we do with thoughtless casualness at times.

But whether we slash their throats first and drop them in, or shoot then up with sleeping drugs and drop them in, there's going to be suffering.

Plus the suffering ads a yummy factor
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I heard women might feel pain when you go balls deep on the first stroke. Should this be a prohbited practice?
Unless you're anyone that dates Jhunt, then its like fallling into a pool
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So you're saying this stems from poor familial relations?
Yes.
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If thats what you took out of that then I'm sorry that is not what I meant.

You are not equal to a cougar. You are a human who is capable or rather, should be capable of intelligent thought where as the couger would not.

If you owned a beef cow would you dismantle it limb by limb, keeping it alive to have the "freshest" meat?
Boiling and dismantling limb by limb are completely different.

I'm sure the lobster is dead within a few seconds of being thrown in the water.

I wish I lived in your dream world where no being deserves to feel any sort of pain
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Not surprised if true. When you boil live shrimp, they thrash all over the place. That's a pretty good indication that they're probably in pain. But man, do they ever taste good.
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Why doesn't everyone just use a knife and stab the lobster in the brain just before you cook it?

might get annoying for shrimp though, but how many people get live shrimp?
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I don't eat anything thats cooked alive.
Are you a vegetarian? If not, that seems like a very arbitrary line to draw. I'd be willing to bet than a lobster thrown into boiling water feels no more pain than a cow or a pig at the slaughterhouse, and probably a lot less pain than a fish that's been pulled from the water by a hook that's been jammed through its cheek.
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Are you a vegetarian? If not, that seems like a very arbitrary line to draw. I'd be willing to bet than a lobster thrown into boiling water feels no more pain than a cow or a pig at the slaughterhouse, and probably a lot less pain than a fish that's been pulled from the water by a hook that's been jammed through its cheek.
It maybe arbritrary but its a line I draw, my resolve on my ethos and pathos forces me to create the line.
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