How about bring in Sedins and Byfuglien for Bennett, 2016 1st, 2nd, Klimchuk, Jankowski, Gillies, Hickey, Raymond, Jooris, 2017 1st try to win this year. I can't wait to win it all.
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If we can't fall in love with replaceable bottom 6 players then the terrorists have won.
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How about bring in Sedins and Byfuglien for Bennett, 2016 1st, 2nd, Klimchuk, Jankowski, Gillies, Hickey, Raymond, Jooris, 2017 1st try to win this year. I can't wait to win it all.
Better throw in Hanow...er...Agostino, just to be safe.
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I think the Flames would be ok waiving Byron, Jooris, and Shore without much risk of losing them on waivers. Granlund can just be sent down.
That cuts the backlog down.
No way Shore makes it through waivers. He is Nhl ready. He was just caught in Floridas' log jam. Flordia did the kid a favor trading for Knight. Flames also teied really hard to protect the kid from waivers last season aswell as Treliving said a dozen teams tried really hard to aquire him at the deadline. He said he had to make it very clear their was no interset in dealing him away.
No way Shore makes it through waivers. He is Nhl ready. He was just caught in Floridas' log jam. Flordia did the kid a favor trading for Knight. Flames also teied really hard to protect the kid from waivers last season aswell as Treliving said a dozen teams tried really hard to aquire him at the deadline. He said he had to make it very clear their was no interset in dealing him away.
Just basing this on opportunities given to him, but Hartley might not be seeing what everyone else sees in him. Shore really never played much after being acquired and to be fair to Hartley, when he was played he didn't show enough to warrant taking someone else's spot.
How about bring in Sedins and Byfuglien for Bennett, 2016 1st, 2nd, Klimchuk, Jankowski, Gillies, Hickey, Raymond, Jooris, 2017 1st try to win this year. I can't wait to win it all.
Drew Shore has done nothing for this team! Losing him means nothing at this point. We know what we have with the rest of the team! Same can be said for Tyler Wotherspoon!
Dont get me wrong, I like both prospects alot. I think we would be wise to give them a chance and see what we have. Yet I dont see that happening. Our D is locked up barring trades. Centers locked up barring trade.
Players like this will get a chance to play if we trade Stajan and Engelland. I dont see that happening. Would like to see it happen but it wont!
Getting rid of these guys clears the path for the next pair Arnold and Morrison. Both of these two may run into the same problem too. It sucks so much having depth on a team until you dont have it!
I am as pissed as any fan, many of our prospects wont get a shot making the team regardless of play. Yet also smart enough to know this is an amazing problem to have. Depth in Goal, finally depth on D, Even the Frolik signing gives up depth on right wing!
You know a rebuild is going well when we dont have enough roster spots for skilled prospects. When you have prospects that should be playing in the NHL, you have a playoff team, or really poor management lol!
The team still lacks size up front and right handed shooters up front.
There are locks to make the team up front, but not as many as people think.
So who are the locks? You seem to disagree with people here so please share! Not trying to be a dick, but you cant post this without giving us a list of players you think are locks!
Size up front and right handed shooters? I want hockey players!
Why do people care so much about a right hand shot? Guy puts the puck in the net I don't care how he does it. As for size?
We could ice a team of 6' 5" giants and lose every game. I just want hockey players!
The team still lacks size up front and right handed shooters up front.
There are locks to make the team up front, but not as many as people think.
I dont think someone like Shore is a lock on this team . I do believe Sore tho is Nhl ready and the Flames will trade him before losing him to waivers tho. The demand for him is there. Treliving said so himself. A GM doesn't just not trade a guy when a dozen teams come a calling unless Hartley also wanted to have him around alot longer.
I don't think Shore. Got alot of ice time out of respect for the other young players who have been around for longer in the System.
I don't think Shore. Got alot of ice time out of respect for the other young players who have been around for longer in the System.
Just from what I remember, it looked like his conditioning needed work in order to get a regular shift in Hartley's system. He would often looked gassed before his line mates. I think you will see a different player in camp this fall if he works on that aspect this summer.
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If we can't fall in love with replaceable bottom 6 players then the terrorists have won.
Just from what I remember, it looked like his conditioning needed work in order to get a regular shift in Hartley's system. He would often looked gassed before his line mates. I think you will see a different player in camp this fall if he works on that aspect this summer.
Just one more reason not to thin the roster until Hartley and management get another look at prospects at training camp.
I am as pissed as any fan, many of our prospects wont get a shot making the team regardless of play.
The last two seasons have proven this incorrect, if a prospect is capable of playing in the NHL he will get their chance. Gaudreau, Ferland, Granlund, and Jooris all got a chance to play last season.
Who deserved a chance to play but didn't? Wotherspoon? I believe Wotherspoon gets overrated by fans because he was the best D-man in a prospect group that didn't have any high-end prospects last season. If Wotherspoon makes the NHL it will most likely be only as a 3rd pairing defenseman. His skating in his limited playing time in the NHL is concerning.
Poirier got in 6 games but didn't look ready yet. Same with Agostino. If any of these players prove they are ready next season I have no reason to worry they won't get a chance.
The last two seasons have proven this incorrect, if a prospect is capable of playing in the NHL he will get their chance. Gaudreau, Ferland, Granlund, and Jooris all got a chance to play last season.
Who deserved a chance to play but didn't? Wotherspoon? I believe Wotherspoon gets overrated by fans because he was the best D-man in a prospect group that didn't have any high-end prospects last season. If Wotherspoon makes the NHL it will most likely be only as a 3rd pairing defenseman. His skating in his limited playing time in the NHL is concerning.
Poirier got in 6 games but didn't look ready yet. Same with Agostino. If any of these players prove they are ready next season I have no reason to worry they won't get a chance.
Shore and Wolf also got chances...even Sven got chances to go into games.
I think that Hartley has definitely provided kids with shots to impress...whether people think they were "fair shots" is a matter of opinion.
if Poirer, ortio, wotherspoon et al, outplays his/their competition, I am confident that this staff will have them in the lineup
So who are the locks? You seem to disagree with people here so please share! Not trying to be a dick, but you cant post this without giving us a list of players you think are locks!
Size up front and right handed shooters? I want hockey players!
Why do people care so much about a right hand shot? Guy puts the puck in the net I don't care how he does it. As for size?
We could ice a team of 6' 5" giants and lose every game. I just want hockey players!
To me, there are 4 locks to be in the opening day line up:
Monahan
Gaudreau
Backlund
Frolik
I would add Hudler if I was 100% sure he wouldn't be traded.
I don't count Stajan, Bennett, Colborne or Bouma as locks to be in the line up either. Training camp is going to be an all out battle.
In regards to your response though, I am not saying Shore makes the team, nor that Hartley and Trelinving are going to pick the 21 tallest and heaviest players. I am saying, as have Flames management, that the team needs to get bigger up front. If the bigger players can't play, then they are out, but that doesn't mean you don't try to get bigger.
Shore was acquired for a reason, but if he isn't one of the 14 best forwards, you get rid of him. Full stop.
To me, there are 4 locks to be in the opening day line up:
Monahan
Gaudreau
Backlund
Frolik
I would add Hudler if I was 100% sure he wouldn't be traded.
I don't count Stajan, Bennett, Colborne or Bouma as locks to be in the line up either. Training camp is going to be an all out battle.
In regards to your response though, I am not saying Shore makes the team, nor that Hartley and Trelinving are going to pick the 21 tallest and heaviest players. I am saying, as have Flames management, that the team needs to get bigger up front. If the bigger players can't play, then they are out, but that doesn't mean you don't try to get bigger.
Shore was acquired for a reason, but if he isn't one of the 14 best forwards, you get rid of him. Full stop.
Bouma should be included in the list of locks to make the roster. He is by far our best penalty killer, chips in offensively and is able to bring physical play on a smaller team. There is no way that anyone will pass him in the depth charts and take his spot unless he is traded which I doubt will happen.
Drew Shore has done nothing for this team! Losing him means nothing at this point. We know what we have with the rest of the team! Same can be said for Tyler Wotherspoon!
Dont get me wrong, I like both prospects alot. I think we would be wise to give them a chance and see what we have. Yet I dont see that happening. Our D is locked up barring trades. Centers locked up barring trade.
Players like this will get a chance to play if we trade Stajan and Engelland. I dont see that happening. Would like to see it happen but it wont!
Getting rid of these guys clears the path for the next pair Arnold and Morrison. Both of these two may run into the same problem too. It sucks so much having depth on a team until you dont have it!
I am as pissed as any fan, many of our prospects wont get a shot making the team regardless of play. Yet also smart enough to know this is an amazing problem to have. Depth in Goal, finally depth on D, Even the Frolik signing gives up depth on right wing!
You know a rebuild is going well when we dont have enough roster spots for skilled prospects. When you have prospects that should be playing in the NHL, you have a playoff team, or really poor management lol!
There is always lots of chances due to injuries. Happens every year.
How about bring in Sedins and Byfuglien for Bennett, 2016 1st, 2nd, Klimchuk, Jankowski, Gillies, Hickey, Raymond, Jooris, 2017 1st try to win this year. I can't wait to win it all.
IMO this post could use a little more green and a little less WTF
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