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Old 07-01-2015, 11:15 AM   #41
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A good fit for Pittsburgh in my opinion.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:15 AM   #42
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cannot believe that Leafs fans think this is a bad trade. Thats an amazing package.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:15 AM   #43
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I like this deal for the Pens. Didn't give up a ton unless these guys really break out but at the same time none of them could amount to a whole lot either. You already know Kessel is an elite scorer. I hope Sid and Phil click and make magic.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:16 AM   #44
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Also told Toronto is eating between15-25% of Kessel contract.
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I wonder if Big Tuna is stroking out as we speak.
Say what you will about Big Tuna, but he was a lot closer on the return that Toronto got back than a lot of the posters on CP thought they would get.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:19 AM   #46
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As per @TSNBobMcKenzie, Penguins trade Spaling, Kapanen, Harrington and two picks to Leafs for Kessel and two other contracts...
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:19 AM   #47
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Trade is bigger than anticipated.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:20 AM   #48
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Say what you will about Big Tuna, but he was a lot closer on the return that Toronto got back than a lot of the posters on CP thought they would get.
maybe, but I don't think the pick is anything special as it will be a late one and depending how you view the players...its pretty meh.

If indeed there is salary retained, then its a pretty underwhelming return IMO.
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Pittsburgh won this trade if they were to get the Leafs to retain on that.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:21 AM   #50
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Say what you will about Big Tuna, but he was a lot closer on the return that Toronto got back than a lot of the posters on CP thought they would get.
"If you think Toronto has to retain salary you don't understand hockey" out some such nonsense was what he said
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Good lord these guys are just saying the same things over and over and over about this Kessel trade.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:23 AM   #52
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Pretty good deal for both sides. Toronto is rebuilding, so they get younger and move out a big contract with term. Pittsburgh needs to be in win mode for as long as Sid and Geno are in their prime. Having the Leafs cover a % of Kessels salary makes it that much more palatable
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maybe, but I don't think the pick is anything special as it will be a late one and depending how you view the players...its pretty meh.

If indeed there is salary retained, then its a pretty underwhelming return IMO.

Its not great, but remembering some of the posters on CP were telling Tuna that if they ate $1 million they would still only get back a Raymond type contract and a 2nd. Some proposlas were even worse than that.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:25 AM   #54
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:28 AM   #55
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I doubt Harrington or Kapanen turn out to be much, we'll see, but for me, it's not that exciting of a return.

Leaf fans wanted that one really top end prospect out of the trade. IMO, they didn't get it at all - despite retaining salary (in the form of taking salaries back).
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Leafs locking up some serious potential in their acquisitions and at the draft.
Looking forward to seeing how they waste all this latest batch of potential.

This is a good deal for the Pens. We've waited a very long time to see Crosby with a talented sniper on his wing.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:29 AM   #57
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Its not great, but remembering some of the posters on CP were telling Tuna that if they ate $1 million they would still only get back a Raymond type contract and a 2nd. Some proposlas were even worse than that.
Those are probably the same people who were saying Taylor Hall has little trade value. The bias some posters have is quite illogical.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:31 AM   #58
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Pens didn't give up anything SUPER ELITE as far as prospects go.. makes me wonder what the flames could of given up..

For those who say they dont want kessel on the flames I don't really get it for 5 mil a season

Frolik - 42 points avg - 4.6MIL
Kessel - 70 points avg (30 goals) - 5 mil

Not much different money wise, and a line of: JG - SM - PK would be really good imo
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Its not great, but remembering some of the posters on CP were telling Tuna that if they ate $1 million they would still only get back a Raymond type contract and a 2nd. Some proposlas were even worse than that.

True...but he was also adamant that "not a cent" would be eaten by the Leafs...which seemed like a ridiculous thing to believe when the facts were staring him right in the face.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:32 AM   #60
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If the price was Klimchuk Wotherspoon and a 1st I think that might have been worth paying. Preferably a lottery protected 1st. Assuming they ate salary.
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