[Trade] Flames trade 15th OA, 45th OA, and 52nd OA for Dougie Hamilton

[sureLoss]

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Hamilton pending RFA, possible offer sheet target (EDM?). Not an easy negotiation/situation for BOS so trade rumors have ensued. Stay tuned.

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Trade interest in Boston's Dougie Hamilton is significant. Some see the Bruins offering Hamilton to Ariz for #3 pick. So much speculation.

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Boston-Arizona makes sense if the Bruins use the pick to draft Hanifin who is a local Boston boy.


update:
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
CGY has fully entered the race to acquire Dougie Hamilton from BOS and may be a top contender to get him. #TSN

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Calgary hard after Dougie Hamilton


update 2:

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Hearing trade call between Boston and Calgary. Working on details but sounds like that's where Hamilton is going.

John Shannon @JSportsnet
Source confirms Dougie Hamilton is a Flame. #NHLDraft

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Dougie Hamilton trade call on now with Calgary


http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=772367

The Calgary Flames announced today that they have acquired defenceman Dougie Hamilton from the Boston Bruins in exchange for Calgary’s 2015 first round pick (15th overall) and two second round picks (45th overall and 52nd overall – previously acquired from the Washington Capitals).

Hamilton, a native of Toronto, Ontario, was originally drafted in the first round (9th overall) in the 2011 NHL Draft by Boston. In 2014-15, the 22-year-old led all Bruins blueliners with 42 points (10G, 32A) in 72 games.

[Tinordi]

Flames should be in on this if they have the assets to spare. Hamilton is a needed piece on the backend that would align with the window for contention.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Strange to say this, but I absolutely agree with Tinordi on this one. Hamilton is the guy you need for now and the future. I don't know if the Flames have the assets to land him, but he would be an incredible piece to fill in the gaps in our defense.

[PlayfulGenius]

Hmm...it seems to me Hamilton is worth more than the 3rd pick ...yet, still not sure why ARZ makes that trade...are they impatient with their rebuild already???

One thing that concerns me about the Flames rebuild is the lack of D prospects ...and since they take longer to develop, the development timelines aren't going to sync up with Monahan, Gaudreau and Bennett...perhaps ARZ would be wise to get Hamilton now, to accompany OEL...then fill in the F positions over the next draft or 2????

[sureLoss]

The only way I could see the Flames being in on this is without offering up a core player is if they give up a similar package that Toronto gave for Kessel.

Also remember Hamilton is reportedly looking for around $7 million/year.

[PlayfulGenius]

I'm curious how someone figures CGY can land Hamilton...it'd take one of Monahan, Gaudreau or Bennett...we all love these players, but hypothetically, which would you prefer to move for Hamilton?

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

The only way I could see the Flames being in on this is without offering up a core player is if they give up a similar package that Toronto gave for Kessel.

Also remember Hamilton is reportedly looking for around $7 million/year.

Was that 2 1sts and a 2nd??

[Tinordi]

I didn't say it was going to be cheap. Any asset not named Gaudreau, Bennett or Monahan should be in play.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I didn't say it was going to be cheap. Any asset not named Gaudreau, Bennett or Monahan should be in play.

Brodie should really be included in these lists of "untouchables".

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

Was that 2 1sts and a 2nd??

Yeah.

The RFA compensation is the starting point. If you don't offer at least something similar, Bruins will say well just sign him to an offer sheet.

[Poe969]

I can't see Arizona being in on him since I doubt they'd want to have the contract he'll have. They make sense as trade partners, I just don't see it happening.

[Da_Chief]

It will take one of our big 4. Not interested in moving them.

Maybe a deal around Gio-Hamilton? Bos gets the cheaper/better player for next year.

[Tinordi]

Definitely, forgot about Brodie.

[LIP MAN]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

It will take one of our big 4. Not interested in moving them.

Maybe a deal around Gio-Hamilton? Bos gets the cheaper/better player for next year.

That would be a monster deal. But unless Boston was in "win now" mode, which it's rumoured they're not, we'd be hard pressed to start that deal. They'd want young assets back, not entirely sure I'm comfortable giving up one of our big four right now.

You think they'd be asking for two vets and a couple prospects if they were? Just throwing this out there, but would a deal involving Hudler and Gio as a start on our end be considered poor asset management in your mind? Maybe I am crazy, and it would shake team chemistry, but I'd do it.

[TheDebaser]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

The only way I could see the Flames being in on this is without offering up a core player is if they give up a similar package that Toronto gave for Kessel.

Also remember Hamilton is reportedly looking for around $7 million/year.

If over the next two drafts we walk away from the first round with one player as good as Hamilton I would be happy. That cap hit does give me some pause though, especially when you compare that salary to Brodie.

[playmaker]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I didn't say it was going to be cheap. Any asset not named Gaudreau, Bennett or Monahan should be in play.

IMO we have 5 assets that may be considered and are highly interesting for the Bruins:

1) 1st round pick 2015
2) 1st round pick 2016
3) Mark Jankowski
4) Tyler Wotherspoon
5) Emile Poirier

Personally, I wouldn't be opposed to offering 1,2 or 4. Keep 3 and 5. Wideman may be also in play as he was Chara's pairing-mate in the past.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by LIP MAN

That would be a monster deal. But unless Boston was in "win now" mode, which it's rumoured they're not, we'd be hard pressed to start that deal. They'd want young assets back, not entirely sure I'm comfortable giving up one of our big four right now.

You think they'd be asking for two vets and a couple prospects if they were? Just throwing this out there, but would a deal involving Hudler and Gio as a start on our end be considered poor asset management in your mind? Maybe I am crazy, and it would shake team chemistry, but I'd do it.

I think it would take Hamilton + to land Gio. Boston has to be in win now mode unless they're planning on moving Bergeron/Krejci/Rask etc. The core of the team is there and strong. Adding Gio for Hamilton would make them stronger right now.

For me, if Gio contract demands really are 9 mill per and they stay there you should look to move him. Unless the term is 3 years.

Hudler, I've said in other threads should be moved. Sell high. Be pro-active not reactive like we were in Iggy/Kipper times.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Yeah.

The RFA compensation is the starting point. If you don't offer at least something similar, Bruins will say well just sign him to an offer sheet.

I think a number of teams would give up a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Hamilton. Edm, Ana, SJ, Van all make sense to name a few, Calgary to. I always thought the compensation was greater ie. 4 firsts for 5, 000,000 and 5 firsts for anything over 5 million, for high end contracts.

Offer sheet Hamilton and trading Gio to get the 1st rounder back plus a prospect back.

[PeteMoss]

I'd be wary about trading next year's first just because you don't know the team will finish and don't want to move a super high pick if things go badly. But I'd do this year's first and two seconds and a good prospect in the Poirier/Klimchuk mold and perhaps Wotherspoon if they want a young d-man (although not sure that's enough).

Getting a top pairing guy who's young is the type of move you've got to be willing to pay for.

[Hockeyguy15]

I would love Hamilton, but it would be a little rough having 7+ million tied up with him long term, plus whatever Gio is going to get (lets say 8 million).

Next year (16/17) Johnny and Monahan are going to command some big raises lets say 3-4 each? That's 22 million is 4 players. Then there is 4 for Brodie and 5 for Wideman.

That extra 7 million could get us in cap trouble quicker than we would like.