How World of Warcraft Could Save Your Business and The Economy
Interesting video explaining why Learning guru John Seely Brown would rather hire an expert player of World of Warcraft over an MBA from Harvard.
And i do agree with him. I've played wow for years and was a hardcore raider at one point. its a lot of planing, trial and error, peer/self evaluation/improvement, and to have a concrete core raiding group you need people to be mediators for problems
I agree that learning to say be a master at PvP in a game like that, against real life living thinking adapting players is a great challenge and a real sign of competence. However, these people find it to be a lot of fun and entertaining. It can be difficult to translate that kind of intense focus/interest into the working world.
Those that do go about their careers with that same passion are of course highly successful. But I wouldn't say because someone is a good GM they are willing to put the same effort they do running their guild into my company. In fact, I might think it is the opposite :P Most of the people that dedicate the kind of time into WOW that you need to be highly successful in arena or a great raid leader for all of the content are using this as an escape from the real world and don't have highly successful lives.. they have again, the opposite of that.
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I suck at PvP but I'm quite good at business. I welcome these guys entering my realm for a change so I can completely rip them apart in the real world.
I haven't been on for a few years but I've still got a few million from messing around with the AH. It's kinda fun playing around in economic systems just like in real life I guess - stocks! (no, not really equivalent) .
i dunno, almost everyone i know who was/is a hardcore MMO raider of any kind has very little to no work ethic and as a result jump from job to job. they prioritize their time with WoW or whatever game they're playing far higher than any real life commitments they have
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i dunno, almost everyone i know who was/is a hardcore MMO raider of any kind has very little to no work ethic and as a result jump from job to job. they prioritize their time with WoW or whatever game they're playing far higher than any real life commitments they have
Ya this is basically what I was trying to say, just better worded here.
And we know he is talking about the best, and that is what is said here. To be the best and to be high successful at the same scale in WOW as the best are in their business, you have to put in an insane amount of hours.
Being the best in WOW requires /played, being the best in RL requires a bit more than just time. Any idiot can play the game enough to finally win that raid, you don't get to wipe and repeat a lot of times IRL. And when you do it isn't a matter of minutes before you are facing that 'dragon' again, we are talking years to decades of your life.
I just think this guy is making a very bad comparison in the video.
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So why hasn't this "expert" assembled his crack team of WoW playing uber-titans and dominated business, instead of just telling others to give it a try?
So why hasn't this "expert" assembled his crack team of WoW playing uber-titans and dominated business, instead of just telling others to give it a try?
Oh, he will. Once they come back from the pre-expansion break, obviously.
I think the point he is trying to make in the video, is that the skills people obtain from playing in a expert raiding guild can translate well over to business.
Things like being open to self/peer criticism to help make your performance better are things a lot of cocky businessmen lack.
Also being able to adjust and evolve to ever changing environments and circumstances; and still being assertive in your decisions is also a good skill.
now I agree that these skills may not translate into EVERY aspect of business, but I'm sure they come in handy in a few fields.
I think the point he is trying to make in the video, is that the skills people obtain from playing in a expert raiding guild can translate well over to business.
Might, not can. He's not offering any evidence or experimentally based proof.
All jokes aside, the highest of high end raiders I knew were in-fact very professional, well-mannered and intelligent.
But on a major server in WoW's hay day you had maybe one or two guilds per server, sometimes none, that fit that criteria. So on a max-pop server you have maybe 40 - 60 people who are like this, and they all gravitated together.
There is a massive difference between being a hardcore raider and being an excellent "best of the best" raider.
All of the people I know in top 5 guilds are crazy smart and successful in real life. All the best players in my guild are also smart and successful (professionals, managers, VP's etc.).
We do have the "hardcore raider" loser type that plays/reads about the game 20 hours a day, but their performance is average at best (attitude is the stereotypical "I'm awesome at wow and thus I'm better than you"). Obviously from a layman's perspective, these two types of people are the same, and I don't think the video did a very good job differentiating the two.
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I was often impressed by some of the videos of elite raiding guilds, ventrilo is so quiet, you had a really calm raid leader, reactions to negative events are calmly carried out and this was being done when they're 3 minutes from being the first in the world to do something.
Transferring the passion to your job is another story.
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I'm a great airliner pilot on my PC, able to traverse tricky weather systems and navigate some of the world's most crowded airspace, with HUNDREDS of virtual passengers depending on me. I've flown trans-Atlantic twice now, once WITHOUT accelerating the simulator.
Air Canada should totally look to me for future captaincy.
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