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Old 02-21-2017, 07:57 AM   #441
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Old 02-21-2017, 01:31 PM   #442
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You have to be quite distracted to get hit by the trains here, you literally have to be walking towards the incoming train prior to turning onto the tracks.

I think about the only other thing the city could do for safety is place flashing lights into the tracks themselves.
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You have to be quite distracted to get hit by the trains here, you literally have to be walking towards the incoming train prior to turning onto the tracks.

I think about the only other thing the city could do for safety is place flashing lights into the tracks themselves.
Would not have mattered, they were distracted by their phone.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...n-ne-1.3992055

Investigators think the pedestrian, who was wearing headphones, was also distracted by his cellphone, said Sgt. Colin Foster with the traffic section.

"There's only so much we can do," he said, noting that ultimately it's up to pedestrians to be aware of their surroundings.
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:55 AM   #445
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I think the physical pull gates are more affective than the maze gates. Placing a physical barrier that must be interacted with is better at breaking distraction than taking a step right or left.

This is the same style and cause as the Chinook incident last year. I wonder if you go back and look if we have any fatalities at pull style gates

The there's only so much we can do is a cop out when you know your user will be walking with headphones and looking at their cell phone.
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I think the physical pull gates are more affective than the maze gates. Placing a physical barrier that must be interacted with is better at breaking distraction than taking a step right or left.
People will always find a way (in a general comment sense - not knocking your pull versus maze gate thing). Hell, look at the multiple who pre-emptively open the gate before the train even starts moving so they can get a head start.




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Old 02-22-2017, 08:43 AM   #447
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The there's only so much we can do is a cop out when you know your user will be walking with headphones and looking at their cell phone.
Not really. There *is* only so much you can do. The problem with making things idiotproof is that someone will build a better idiot.

And that, bluntly, is what happened here.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:58 AM   #448
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It never ceases to amaze me that someone can be so engrossed in something else (their phone) as to be oblivious to an oncoming Train.

You're going to a train station, trains come and go from said station. Its their whole thing.
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The only person I feel sorry for is the driver of the C-train.
Otherwise good that no one else got hurt. Luckily this person was walking distraced and not driving as the result could have been a lot worse for a lot of innocent people.
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You have to be quite distracted to get hit by the trains here, you literally have to be walking towards the incoming train prior to turning onto the tracks.

I think about the only other thing the city could do for safety is place flashing lights into the tracks themselves.
Ground level, upward pointing lights tied to the flashing signals would both work, and be cheap. We should try this.
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I actually know the guy who got hit at Shawnessy train station, he even put it up on facebook haha. Had his headphones in as well
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Wow, those Shawnessy videos are the epitome of stupid. Buddy would have just got off that train and completely forgot about it within 3 seconds of leaving?
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Looks like there was a train coming from the other direction as well.
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Buddy would have just got off that train and completely forgot about it within 3 seconds of leaving?
I'd like some kind of foolproof way of saving everybody, but if people willfully ignore the fact that they just got off a train to then willfully ignore and circumvent the sound warnings, visual warnings, and physical barriers to get run over by the same damn train they got off of moments earlier . . .

I mean, we can install disco ball or in-track lights every 20 centimeters that would require replacement, maintenance and changing in the hope of getting people's attention away from their phone for a moment, or escalate the sound warnings to the roar of a jet engine (F those nearby communities) to blast higher than their active noise cancelling headphones.
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Electrify the gate, and come up with a snappy slogan, like "A little zap will save you from the dirt nap" or somesuch.
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The only person I feel sorry for is the driver of the C-train.
Otherwise good that no one else got hurt. Luckily this person was walking distraced and not driving as the result could have been a lot worse for a lot of innocent people.
I feel bad for the C-train driver too, and anyone that witnessed the accident. If this person had been listening to headphones alone, they likely could have seen it; if they had been using their phone alone, they likely would have heard it. But cellphone + headphones is extremely risky... especially around trains and/or traffic.

It's still really sad though, and I have a hard time judging someone who died from making a mistake when there are plenty of mistakes I've made, especially when younger, that could have resulted in my death as well. I just hope it serves to make the next person think twice before doing both things at once.
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I actually know the guy who got hit at Shawnessy train station, he even put it up on facebook haha. Had his headphones in as well
I'm always curious about the aftermath of these situations. How much did he regret it? Did he realize he was a total idiot?
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People will always find a way (in a general comment sense - not knocking your pull versus maze gate thing). Hell, look at the multiple who pre-emptively open the gate before the train even starts moving so they can get a head start.



Hahahahaha what a clown.

How do you get hit by the same train you JUST got off of?
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I live just down the block from this station..it is the third death since they put in the land crossing on the south side of the station. I understand it is a ####ty situation but honestly..I am dumbfounded at how many people get hit and killed by trains. They have tracks! just pay ##### attention when crossing them. Darwin Award winner #1275623786472649286384628923497283974
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Is this just a calgary thing? I mean, there are trains in other cities. Do they have the same numbers of accidents as we do?
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