Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Ivrnet

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-19-2017, 04:00 PM   #1
taco.vidal
First Line Centre
 
taco.vidal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Exp:
Default Calgary hockey parents outraged by playoff game decided by coin toss at Winsport

http://globalnews.ca/news/3320375/ca.../?sf64269374=1

Quote:
Calgary hockey parents outraged by playoff game decided by coin toss at Winsport
March 19, 2017 1:29 pm

It’s the height of playoff season at ice rinks across Calgary for hundreds of minor hockey players.

But players, parents and coaches were outraged after a decision in a big game between the Calgary Buffalo Wranglers and Calgary Royals came down to the flip of a coin due to ice time running out.

The game was held at Winsport on Saturday night at 7 p.m., one of many games being played as part of the AA City Championships.

Royals head coach Jarvis Bender said the game was tied and came down to a three player shootout but when no one scored, the decision was made to have a coin toss.

“The toughest part for me was to tell 19 teenagers that all their hard work and dedication for the season was decided not by their skill but by a coin toss,” Bender said.

The rules allow hockey games to go into ten minutes of overtime but Bender believes there was an error made when their ice time was booked.

Winsport was asked to extend the time to finish the shootout but Bender said they wouldn’t budge due to a game scheduled afterward.
__________________
______________________________________________________________________________
taco.vidal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 04:04 PM   #2
afc wimbledon
Franchise Player
 
afc wimbledon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
Exp:
Default

Not ideal but not the end of the world either
afc wimbledon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to afc wimbledon For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 04:05 PM   #3
Locke
ness Monster
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Coin toss or shootout....theres not a world of difference.
__________________

-Killer Sig Courtesy of ATR
Socialist Hegemony of Albertan Territory - Flag courtesy of awildermode

- "Somebody may beat me, but they're going to have to bleed to do it."
- Steve Prefontaine
Locke is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Locke For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 04:55 PM   #4
Northendzone
Franchise Player
 
Northendzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Exp:
Default

Brutal way to sort out a bantam hockey game.
__________________
I really like bikes and bike related discussions......
Northendzone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 05:14 PM   #5
burn_this_city
Franchise Player
 
burn_this_city's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

How much longer would it have taken to decide it in a shootout? Maybe 5-10 mins tops?
burn_this_city is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 05:15 PM   #6
RinkRat
Backup Goalie
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Exp:
Default

They say there was a booking issue, but from my experience hockey associations try to book a shorter time and expect their OT to be allowed well passed their alloted time. Simply because it's a playoff game.

At my rink if a private booking is after you you're out of luck. But if it can be accommodated I'm happy to oblige.
RinkRat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to RinkRat For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 05:28 PM   #7
puffnstuff
First Line Centre
 
puffnstuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: wearing raccoons for boots
Exp:
Default

Bantam AA would book minimum 2 hours time slots. And have 20 minute stop time periods, with at least one flood during an intermission somewhere in the three periods. They usually book back to back to back for league games. As in, take all the ice between 530 and 11. Playoffs would be different of course as they get down to the semis and finals and need fewer ice times. Looking at the schedule at Hockey Calgary, looks like they had 2 hours booked.
puffnstuff is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to puffnstuff For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 05:29 PM   #8
calgaryblood
Franchise Player
 
calgaryblood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
Exp:
Default

Id be outraged as well, a coin toss? The only way to settle something fairly is rock, paper, scissors.
calgaryblood is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to calgaryblood For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 05:37 PM   #9
Skaloper
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Skaloper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Team higher in the standings for regular season or other tiebreaker rules should come into play here other than a coin flip. That way a team knows going in that its up to them to ensure they are ahead. Another idea might be to just have a competition off the ice where kids have to flip their water bottles and the first team to do it moves on.

But in all reality this is a scheduling issue to not allow for enough time to decide a winner.
Skaloper is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 05:39 PM   #10
Weitz
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Exp:
Default

Keep throwing shooters till it's over. Would have been done by the time they decided to flip the coin I bet.
Weitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 05:39 PM   #11
OMG!WTF!
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Exp:
Default

Shoulda had the parents fight it out.
OMG!WTF! is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to OMG!WTF! For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 05:39 PM   #12
monkeyman
Powerplay Quarterback
 
monkeyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Poor decision by Winsport, but that's pretty petty and dangerous of the parents.
__________________
The Delhi police have announced the formation of a crack team dedicated to nabbing the elusive 'Monkey Man' and offered a reward for his -- or its -- capture.
monkeyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 05:40 PM   #13
Finger Cookin
Franchise Player
 
Finger Cookin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Exp:
Default

That's their secret, Cap. Calgary hockey parents are always outraged.
Finger Cookin is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Finger Cookin For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 05:59 PM   #14
transplant99
Fearmongerer
 
transplant99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyman View Post
Poor decision by Winsport, but that's pretty petty and dangerous of the parents.


Which was what? Didnt see anything in the article listed.

A Double AA tournament game should never ever be decided by a coin flip though....this isnt a bunch of 7 year olds out there.

Winsport.... epic fail.
__________________
Quote:
Tkachuk is more like Marchand than the other guys though. He's really ****ing good. He's just a total butthole.
Unknown Kings fan
transplant99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 06:13 PM   #15
iggy_oi
Powerplay Quarterback
 
iggy_oi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OMG!WTF! View Post
Shoulda had the parents fight it out.
I think that's what they might have been going for when they decided to do a coin toss
iggy_oi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 06:14 PM   #16
Cecil Terwilliger
That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
 
Cecil Terwilliger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
Exp:
Default

How is this on winsport? The teams and/or minor hockey association screwed up and didn't book enough time. Even that I find hard to believe. As if they didn't know how long their booking was for.

They knew the rules going in, or at least should have, and were responsible for booking enough time. They didn't.

I'm sure if they really want they can lobby the association to allow them to book an hour of ice time and have a proper OT and shootout.
__________________


Last edited by Cecil Terwilliger; 03-19-2017 at 06:17 PM.
Cecil Terwilliger is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Cecil Terwilliger For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 06:18 PM   #17
browna
Franchise Player
 
browna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Almost every sports tournament I've been involved in, the rules state that in the event of a tie (after goal difference, penalty shots (soccer or hockey), goals for and against etc) the final tie breaker is a coin toss.

Now, usually its in a round robin type of thing, but its there (and probably in the rules here too) because something has to be decided and there is not the time for further tie breakers.

But many times as a kid, playing with 7-10 minutes left in the game but it got delayed, and the clock suddenly went down to 2 minutes because the ice time was running out, and you had to deal with it. Same with Minor Hockey week back in the 80's - overtime was 5-5 with no goalies, and then every 3 minutes 1 kid from each team taken off the ice. That's really not much more than a coin flip, either.

Canada won the Gold Cup in 2000 in soccer in part due to winning a coin toss after the round robin in the earlier rounds, to just get into the QF - they then won the next 3 games.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle4160365/

Last edited by browna; 03-19-2017 at 06:20 PM.
browna is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to browna For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 06:31 PM   #18
looooob
Franchise Player
 
looooob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger View Post
How is this on winsport? The teams and/or minor hockey association screwed up and didn't book enough time. Even that I find hard to believe. As if they didn't know how long their booking was for.

They knew the rules going in, or at least should have, and were responsible for booking enough time. They didn't.

I'm sure if they really want they can lobby the association to allow them to book an hour of ice time and have a proper OT and shootout.
this was the city championship tournament, so not directly on the teams or their associations

coin toss team just won the Bantam AA final game
looooob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 06:34 PM   #19
Cecil Terwilliger
That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
 
Cecil Terwilliger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by looooob View Post
this was the city championship tournament, so not directly on the teams or their associations

coin toss team just won the Bantam AA final game
So this is hockey calgary's fault? Still not sure how winsport is to be blamed.
__________________

Cecil Terwilliger is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Cecil Terwilliger For This Useful Post:
Old 03-19-2017, 06:39 PM   #20
btimbit
Franchise Player
 
btimbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Airdrie
Exp:
Default

Yeah, this is the fault of whoever booked the ice time. Winsport just trying to honour all their commitments.

That really does suck for the teams though. Pretty ####ty to be a player on the losing team because of it
btimbit is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to btimbit For This Useful Post:
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:17 PM.

Calgary Flames
2016-17




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2016