03-20-2017, 04:15 PM
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#81
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by browna
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Damn right! As a Canadian national team supporter who was too young to remember the 1986 World Cup, the fact that the greatest achievement I've ever seen the national team accomplished is due to a coin flip is sad, but also hilarious.
Don't take this away from me though, I would kill for a coin flip to get into the Gold Cup QF now!
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03-20-2017, 04:28 PM
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#82
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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So, I am a Calgary Hockey Parent (and coach) and take offense at some comments about Hockey Parents.
It is true that there are crazy people in all hockey teams - but to generalize all hockey parents that way is unfair. The antics of a few over shadow the parents that are sane and somewhat normal.
As for the coin toss thing - it seems unfortunate and would be a devastating way to lose, but probably a good parenting moment if viewed in the right way. Someone didn't do their job booking ice or ensuring that there was enough time in the ice rental to ensure time for OT/SO. In some minor hockey if the game cannot be completed it is usually booked for another time (for City Champs I though this was the rule).
Minor hockey is not perfect, but is a heck of a lot better organized than other sports such as soccer and little league. Hockey parents probably have a higher expectation that things are well organized because of that. Example in little league quite common to have umps missing, but to miss a ref in hockey is very rare.
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03-20-2017, 04:29 PM
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#83
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
My son was at a karate tournament last year and I saw a 5-year-old get struck hard in the face. The kid stood there bawling for about 2 or 3 minutes. Nobody intervened, they just paused the match and let him stand there and cry it out until he had control of himself. Then he finished the match and his dad gave him a hug.
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Yeah you see the whole range of emotion from kids after losing a sparring match but the parents are pretty in check. I never saw anything odd from parents.
Probably cause it's one on one? If your kid gets his ass kicked, can't really blame anyone.
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03-20-2017, 04:30 PM
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#84
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Norm!
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I quit taking Karate as a kid when they told me that they don't teach you how to rip a mans still beating heart out of his chest. What's the point?
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03-20-2017, 07:16 PM
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#85
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by edn88
So, I am a Calgary Hockey Parent (and coach) and take offense at some comments about Hockey Parents.
It is true that there are crazy people in all hockey teams - but to generalize all hockey parents that way is unfair. The antics of a few over shadow the parents that are sane and somewhat normal.
As for the coin toss thing - it seems unfortunate and would be a devastating way to lose, but probably a good parenting moment if viewed in the right way. Someone didn't do their job booking ice or ensuring that there was enough time in the ice rental to ensure time for OT/SO. In some minor hockey if the game cannot be completed it is usually booked for another time (for City Champs I though this was the rule).
Minor hockey is not perfect, but is a heck of a lot better organized than other sports such as soccer and little league. Hockey parents probably have a higher expectation that things are well organized because of that. Example in little league quite common to have umps missing, but to miss a ref in hockey is very rare.
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You complain about people generalizing about minor hockey and stereotyping hockey parents then you go and do the exact same about other kids sports.
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03-21-2017, 11:24 AM
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#86
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by taco.vidal
You complain about people generalizing about minor hockey and stereotyping hockey parents then you go and do the exact same about other kids sports.
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In my experience minor hockey is more organized than other sports in Calgary. Not meant to be a generalization, but my experience.
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03-21-2017, 11:56 AM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by sketchyt
But wouldn't you get these experiences without so many of the negatives in other sports? Basketball, baseball, etc...
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Nope.
Parents are parents no matter the sport. I run a softball league for kids and coach. Dealing with parents is 95% of the hassle of doing it.
And about the expectation of volunteering, I have put in literally hundreds of hours so your kid has a place to play and meet new friends and learn new skills both on and off the field and you (maybe not specifically you) can't give two hours to hand out pinnies at evalutions or rake a field? That selfish attitude blows me away.
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03-21-2017, 12:00 PM
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#88
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by edn88
In my experience minor hockey is more organized than other sports in Calgary. Not meant to be a generalization, but my experience.
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Although I run one of those other sports I tend to agree with the generalization. The difference is the number of people willing to volunteer and the sheer numbers of participants. Hockey and to a way lesser extent ringette (just numbers not willingess to help), have a far more dedicated parent base that are willing to help out. That makes running things far easier. Also, when you are talking the scope of minor hockey the sheer logistics means it has to be organized like a military operation.
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03-21-2017, 12:22 PM
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Franchise Player
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A coin toss is fine. This isn't some life altering series. It teaches kids that life isn't always fair and it's a good lesson they should all take to heart, and move on.
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03-21-2017, 12:27 PM
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#90
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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The Patriots just won a coin toss, and then the Superbowl - ATL was given no chance to respond.
Last edited by troutman; 03-21-2017 at 01:36 PM.
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03-21-2017, 12:32 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by troutman
Th Patriots just won a coin toss, and then the Superbowl - ATL was given no chance to respond.
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Hockey is more important than football, duh.
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03-21-2017, 01:13 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Section 222
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Originally Posted by troutman
Th Patriots just won a coin toss, and then the Superbowl - ATL was given no chance to respond.
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They could have played some Defence.
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03-21-2017, 01:33 PM
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#93
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
A coin toss is fine. This isn't some life altering series. It teaches kids that life isn't always fair and it's a good lesson they should all take to heart, and move on.
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kids are over it, parents are not
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03-21-2017, 01:35 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
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The lesson is win the game in regulation or ot
should just call it a tie, nobody wins
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03-21-2017, 01:40 PM
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#95
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Airdrie, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Rhettzky
They could have played some Defence.
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buuuuuuuuuuuuuurn
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03-21-2017, 02:54 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Titan
And about the expectation of volunteering, I have put in literally hundreds of hours so your kid has a place to play and meet new friends and learn new skills both on and off the field and you (maybe not specifically you) can't give two hours to hand out pinnies at evalutions or rake a field? That selfish attitude blows me away.
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Depends on what you mean by volunteering. I helped out on the field with soccer when the kids played. But now with other sports we're getting into fundraising for out of city trips a couple times a month. Thousands of dollars a year out of pocket, and then dozens more hours of fundraising. For kids who are 8 and 9 years old!
Why is there so much more money and time required for young kids to play sports than was the case 30 or 40 years ago? Why so much equipment and clothing and travel? I see no evidence the kids themselves are any better off than kids decades ago. It has to be about something else.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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