View Poll Results: Should the Flames bring back Treliving
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Yes
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No
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This is so obviously yes it shouldn't be a poll question
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04-24-2017, 11:18 AM
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#341
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Just saw the poll. So almost 98% of Calgary hockey fans say yes to bringing him back. I don't think any Flames GM since the the Stanley Cup would have had a response like that. Get it done Burke!
Unless this is fake news of course...
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04-24-2017, 11:36 AM
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#342
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
He hasn't been perfect by any means. I like that he's a tireless worker and all but this team still isn't amongst the top drafting teams in the NHL and he's been hit and miss in free agency. I feel he hasn't done anything crippling and have been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in that he's still a first time NHL GM and will learn from mistakes. Still though I would say his work has been just good not great but acknowledge he can grow into being a better GM.
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Perfection simply cannot be the standard. The best teams have consistency in their management and coaching. He has been way better than he needs to be in order to be retained, when you consider that the alternative is another period of turnover and change in tone from the top. That just cannot happen right now, in my opinion.
Re: drafting, he hasn't been around long enough to judge his effect on our draft results.
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Just saw the poll. So almost 98% of Calgary hockey fans say yes to bringing him back. I don't think any Flames GM since the the Stanley Cup would have had a response like that. Get it done Burke!
Unless this is fake news of course...
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Many of the people who voted to not bring him back are not Flames fans, to boot.
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04-24-2017, 12:43 PM
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#343
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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He should be brought back for sure, however I don't really want the team to go long term - 2 years would be ideal in my opinion. As it stands now he has improved the depth and competitiveness of the team but has also made some key errors along the way, which should be expected of a rookie GM.
The fact he has been unable to address the goalie situation long-term thus far, combined with a few questionable free agency signings is troublesome. I also want to see how he and his staff handles drafting well outside the top 5-6 picks this year. If he can clean up his next year or two on the job, I'd be behind the Flames bringing him back on a longer deal at that time.
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Last edited by Hot_Flatus; 04-24-2017 at 12:46 PM.
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04-26-2017, 08:25 AM
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#344
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
He should be brought back for sure, however I don't really want the team to go long term - 2 years would be ideal in my opinion. As it stands now he has improved the depth and competitiveness of the team but has also made some key errors along the way, which should be expected of a rookie GM.
The fact he has been unable to address the goalie situation long-term thus far, combined with a few questionable free agency signings is troublesome. I also want to see how he and his staff handles drafting well outside the top 5-6 picks this year. If he can clean up his next year or two on the job, I'd be behind the Flames bringing him back on a longer deal at that time.
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I would actually like him on-board for long-term. I've liked what he's done so far quite a bit, and I think having some stability upstairs allows a GM to think long-term. He is the kind of guy that can do great things for the long-term.
We're seeing the effects of it now, but look at what Alex Anthopoulos did to the Jays. There's a few examples of it each year I feel, but AA was the most blatant example of a GM making big splashes now to try and stamp his tenure with success. If he had another 5 years on his contract he'd likely have avoided emptying the cupboards.
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04-26-2017, 09:21 AM
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#345
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Fletcher only got to be the best GM in Flames history because he was here for so many years. He had a good decade where he was left alone to ****-up and learn on the job. Now, these days, it's impossible to expect anyone to have a 20-year run in the position, but letting Treliving go now would be horrible. He is already better than anything that has been around since Fletcher, and presumably will only get better with experience (no half-measures to address goaltending, no contracts for the likes of Brouwer, etc) from here on in. How stupid would it be to change horses from a very competent guy who has put in his "learning years"? I had despaired of this franchise during the latter years of Sutter insanity and Feaster buffoonery, but if they bungle this now...
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04-26-2017, 01:14 PM
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#346
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Franchise Player
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So any word on when the deal will be signed?
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04-26-2017, 01:52 PM
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#347
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
So any word on when the deal will be signed?
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Nobody trolls like the Flames.
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04-26-2017, 02:10 PM
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#348
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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Has Boyd signed yet?
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04-27-2017, 08:45 AM
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#349
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Franchise Player
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This is actually brutal.
How is the GM supposed to conduct business without the certainty of a multi year deal? If no deal is reached, how are they going to find a new GM fast enough to begin the summer work?
There's gotta be something behind the scenes. My money is the Flames being stupid, but it could also be Treliving asking for huge money.
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04-27-2017, 08:53 AM
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#350
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Franchise Player
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My money is on believing Treliving when he says he is just busy right now.
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04-27-2017, 09:58 AM
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#351
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
My money is on believing Treliving when he says he is just busy right now.
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That is where the smart money is.
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04-27-2017, 10:07 AM
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#352
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
My money is on believing Treliving when he says he is just busy right now.
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Seems odd to me. Unless there is a gentleman's agreement already in place, I would think it would be difficult for Treliving to conduct off-season business without knowing if he'll be employed.
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04-27-2017, 10:14 AM
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#353
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Franchise Player
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He is employed till June and both parties want to get it done so when there is a lull in the season they will sit down and finalize this over lunch. Right now there is still a bunch of scouting and the Heat in the thick of a playoffs run (hopefully). The internet just likes to worry and speculate.
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04-27-2017, 10:20 AM
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#354
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First Line Centre
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Maybe he took a vacation? In a job where there isn't really ever a good time to take a day off, this could be a nice time to take a week or two and get away.
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04-27-2017, 11:18 AM
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#355
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London
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Ken King's comments on the "Big Show" made me feel a lot better. Listen at about 14:10-
http://www.sportsnet.ca/960/the-big-...king-big-show/
King- "Great hockey operations management"
"I don't think there will be any surprises"
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04-27-2017, 11:23 AM
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#356
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Tre is generally an excellent GM. That said, I hope contracts like Brouwer's and non-definitive goaltending like Elliot are lessons for him.
On the other side of the coin, I think Tre is positioning guys like Jankowski, Lazar and Gilles well to succeed by being patient with their progress.
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04-27-2017, 11:44 AM
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#357
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Nowadays, everybody wanna talk
Like they got somethin' to say
But nothin' comes out when they move their lips
Just a bunch of gibberish
And mother######ers act like they forgot about Tre
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04-27-2017, 11:47 AM
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#358
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Tre is generally an excellent GM. That said, I hope contracts like Brouwer's and non-definitive goaltending like Elliot are lessons for him.
On the other side of the coin, I think Tre is positioning guys like Jankowski, Lazar and Gilles well to succeed by being patient with their progress.
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I hope he learns his lesson and gets a proper goalie coach. I doubt it matters which goalie BT acquires, they will crash & burn if Sigalet sticks around. The upgrades he made couldn't even win a single playoff game.
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04-27-2017, 12:01 PM
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#359
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Johnny Rotten
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But if there are going to be surprises he wouldn't talk about firing him he would just fire him.
You know, in keeping with how King delivers messages and eases concerns.
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04-27-2017, 12:17 PM
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#360
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Lifetime Suspension
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Does Tree want to come back? Does someone offer him a better opportunity? Somewhere with no Ken King bumbling around, no ownership meddling in hockey ops and no Brian Burke being truculent and stealing the spotlight with his hair and untied ties.
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