The article is basically bringing up the issue that wealthier teams are able to bury contracts in the minors while the poorer teams don't have that luxury.
It goes on to argue that it should be a CBA issue this offseason.
I'm racking my brain trying to think about how one could fix this issue and every possible solution I come up with is just a giant slippery slope where either the owners gets furious or the players get furious.
Tough issue, that's for sure.
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this (burying one-way NHL contracts in the minors) is a relatively uncommon practice in the NHL, and we as fans need to get used to it - especially because this kind of cap loophole may not be available in the next CBA.
I wouldn't mind seeing that become the case because team(s) with gobs of money buried down there (hello, NY Rangers) will have to get those contracts back on their salary cap.
The article is basically bringing up the issue that wealthier teams are able to bury contracts in the minors while the poorer teams don't have that luxury.
It goes on to argue that it should be a CBA issue this offseason.
I'm racking my brain trying to think about how one could fix this issue and every possible solution I come up with is just a giant slippery slope where either the owners gets furious or the players get furious.
Tough issue, that's for sure.
How about an AHL cap? Something like no team can exceed 5 million or whatever the number.
How about an AHL cap? Something like no team can exceed 5 million or whatever the number.
Just throwing an idea out.
I think that is a pretty good idea, but unfortunately $5 million would be way too low since most players carry an NHL cap hit. If every player on a 23 man roster carried a league minimum NHL cap hit of $525k that would be over $12 million in cap hits right there, and then there will be guys on their ELCs making a million plus. Unless you only count their AHL salaries, then its a completely different ball game. But it also doesn't affect guys like Huet who had a huge cap hit and was playing in Europe.
I think the best way to close this is have all 1way contracts counting against the cap at all times. The only way to remove a player from your cap is via trade or buyout.
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How about an AHL cap? Something like no team can exceed 5 million or whatever the number.
Just throwing an idea out.
This is not something the NHL and NHLPA can collectively bargain as the AHL governors have their own union to deal with, and I doubt that the PHPA would be enthusiastic about such an idea when their CBA expires after 2013-14.
From the NHL side though, I think the easier solution is to make the NHL team responsible for a very large portion of contract when a player making over x is claimed on waivers. Say 75-25 instead of 50-50 like now. And make no distinction between sending a player down or calling them up.
Also, Alberta Beef - most players in the AHL are on two-way deals or AHL-only contracts. Their NHL cap hits are irrelevant when they are making $75k on their AHL deals. The only guys with the giant cap hits are the one-way players getting buried.
I guess wade redden's multiple emails to hundreds of NHL types have been answered.
While I won't take a guess at the exact number of players, , I will guess that we are talking somewhere between 45 and 59 feet of player and that would be something in the range of 2200 hundred pounds of pro hockey playas.....
It's an interesting theory, but somewhat flawed I think. How many of these players would have been playing in the NHL if they made less money?
Conklin, for example, simply lost his job. Same with Trent Hunter.
Mark Fraser spent the whole year in the AHL with more than one organization.
Reinprecht, was already in the minors when the Canucks acquired him. They just kept him there because he's not an NHL forward anymore imo.
Parent was stuck in the minors because of re-entry waivers iirc.
How many of these were actually because of salary? Leighton and Walker, Redden, Finger, and Olesz are the only sure ones. The rest were because of other issues imo.
How many of these were actually because of salary? Leighton and Walker, Redden, Finger, and Olesz are the only sure ones. The rest were because of other issues imo.
I don't think Leighton was either. I think Leighton was in the AHL because Bryz and Bob are simply better goaltenders.
Also, Alberta Beef - most players in the AHL are on two-way deals or AHL-only contracts. Their NHL cap hits are irrelevant when they are making $75k on their AHL deals. The only guys with the giant cap hits are the one-way players getting buried.
So how many folks actually got demoted to the AHL last season?
