Markus Granlund Ceiling

[robbie111]

So far he has been playing as the #2 center and has looked very good for the Flames this year. He also currently leads all Flames forwards this year in points per game. I was wondering how he would fair against the Ducks and Hawks. Lead all Flames as a +3 against the Ducks while Getzlaf and Perry were both -3's. Was even against the Hawks and assisted on a PP goal. Is one of our main PK players. Weakness so far has been faceoffs, but that could be said for lots of rookie centers.

Does he top out as a #2 as he has been this season so far or does he have the potential to be a #1 Center.

[jg13]

Honestly, I see 600 goals and 1300 points out of him.

But actually, I expect him to be a solid #2C that might end up playing the wing with our Centre depth in the next few years. I think he can be a 60 point player. I also think that Granlund is our most under rated prospect, even though hes gained a lot of attention in the past 2 weeks.

[AC]

I see him as more of a #2/#3 centre, but he just keeps looking better and better out there against NHL stars.

Hell, his assist tonight was him racing into Rozsival to block his clearing attempt, then winning the race vs Keith to the loose puck, then fending Keith off physically until he found a clear passing lane to Gaudreau.

Grannie has all the tools. He's hard-working, fast, reads the play well, has a great shot, and is great defensively. Like you said the only downside so far is his faceoffs, but that will come with experience (see Monahan).

Hard to really classify any of our centres according to 1/2/3/4 going forward though. We could theoretically have two #1Cs in Monahan and Bennett, two #2Cs in Backlund and Granlund, two #3Cs in Jooris and Stajan. Not to mention our abundance of 3rd/4th line centre possibilities in Bouma, Reinhart, Arnold, Knight, etc. And a wildcard in Jankowski still.

And that's all assuming Colborne is a winger going forward.

[combustiblefuel]

I can't really see what his ceiling is at this moment. I believe tho he will become a solid NHL'er. He has a lot motivation at the moment. His brother's doing pretty good in the NHL . It seems to me they have always had a spirited past of competitiveness between them . This seems like this is going to be a very good rookie year in the NHL for him. Now with that being said It is his rookie year ( so far) on a call up. I would need to see a full year in the NHL to make a more definitive answer. The problem is there are a lot of young(wish) players that will return soon enough.

They of course could try to trade players to make room of course but, when you consider Seto and Diaz( more understandable given the lack of D depth) has not been waived so far. They seem to this point unwilling to bargain until they see if the cup of coffee has worn off.

I would like to say that I hope he becomes 1/2/3 center utility player. I think he would be a 2/3 center who can be swapped between the two lines between the individual need based on the team they are facing that night.

[Party Elephant]

Multiple Hart trophies.

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[Since1984]

Honestly....the best comparison I can think of is Mikko Koivu as a Ceiling.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Since1984

Honestly....the best comparison I can think of is Mikko Koivu.

I'd say Mikael Grandlund
GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
18 2 7 9 6 2 0 0 1 30 6.7

Marcus Granland
GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
10 3 6 9 4 6 0 0 0 15 20.0

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I'd say Mikael Grandlund
GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
18 2 7 9 6 2 0 0 1 30 6.7

Marcus Granland
GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
10 3 6 9 4 6 0 0 0 15 20.0

I'd say that 20% shooting percentage is unsustainable, but so far I'm really impressed with him in all situations (except faceoffs). There's no way to justify sending him back to Addy, unless his performances significantly tail off.

I'll play this game once... When everyone is healthy I think the forwards should line up like this:

Glencross Monahan Colborne
Gaudreau Granlund Hudler
Raymond Backlund Byron
Bouma Stajan Jooris
Bollig/McGrattan

[Hackey]

Hard to give a ceiling this early on but I think he will definitely be a productive player in the 40-60pts range. If he can become even better that's all gravy for us.

[Caged Great]

A solid 2nd/3rd line Center/Winger. He certainly has impressed significantly. At this rate if it comes down to keeping Jooris, Granlund and Gaudreau verses keeping any of the veteran forwards, I think you move out the vets. Whether it's through waivers (Setoguchi) or via trade (Glencross maybe?), it just needs to be done. These kids are damn good.

[442scotty]

I really don't know what you do with him once everyone is healthy and Bennett shows up. Im thinking maybe a 30-40 point guy. Might get passed by others,

[Lanny_McDonald]

I see him on the second line, but on the LW. He's more of a finisher than a setup guy. A one-two-three punch on LW of Gaudreau, Granlund and Ferland is something to be very excited about.

[BigErnSalute_16]

At this point, IMO, there is no reason to believe that he won't, or can't, be every bit as good as his brother. All he has done in his call ups is impress, so his ceiling should be whatever Mikael's is.

[_Q_]

He's already a great third line centre and a decent second liner.

So what he can develop into? Who knows. Personally, I think he makes Backlund expendable.

[#-3]

I think if we are talking Ceiling, Craig Conroy. I could see him being a good second line center, that could do a great job riding shotgun with a superstar winger for a while.

I think it is more likely we see him end up somewhere in the Backlund/Stajan range. a capable 2nd C, but more likely to get pushed down the depth chart on a good team.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by New Era

I see him on the second line, but on the LW. He's more of a finisher than a setup guy. A one-two-three punch on LW of Gaudreau, Granlund and Ferland is something to be very excited about.

Play a guy at center because he's good at that position, not because he's more setup or sniper or whatever.

Also, Morgan Klimchuk.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by New Era

I see him on the second line, but on the LW. He's more of a finisher than a setup guy. A one-two-three punch on LW of Gaudreau, Granlund and Ferland is something to be very excited about.

Yeah, I think you're right. I thought forever that Baertschi was destined to be our #2 LWer. Now I'm not so sure. In fact, I'm not sure where Baertschi fits into the plans of the organization going forward. He's not bad or anything, just doesn't seem to have a spot in the future. This is how I see our depth chart when it comes to our younger players.

Gaudreau-Bennett/Monahan-X?/Poirier/Colborne?
Granlund-Monahan/Bennett-Poirier/Colborne
Ferland-Backlund-Jooris
Bouma-Arnold-Smith

It doesn't matter who's the 1st or 2nd line center, they're both going to be great. Give me Monahan on the top line as more of a Kopitar type player who can shut down the opposition and create offense. Bennett is more of an offensive player who can play defense, so he might be more suited to a #2 non-shutdown line. Poirier is still an unknown entity in the NHL, but I think he's going to be there soon. Ferland is an ideal 3rd line power winger who can slide up in the lineup when needed. I think Smith is the perfect 4th line enforcer/goal scorer similar to Chris Simon.

Granlund does a lot of things well, but his shot is the most exceptional thing about him so I'd like to see him on the wing where he can get more chances to shoot. The great thing is you could swap any of the top 3 line players and probably get similar results.

BTW, I think Hanowski could be a solid 4th line right winger as well in case Smith doesn't work out.

We really still need that exceptional top line right winger and I think that's where you see Baertschi moved at some point to get that player. Or we might just pick one up in free agency. Who knows, but I think most of the team going forward is filling out quite nicely.

And…there's still so many guys who could have decent NHL careers: Agostino, Knight, Klimchuk, Jankowski, Reinhart, Carroll…our forward depth is insane at the moment.

[Stay Golden]

A bit odd to suggest a ceiling on a rookie. He is off to a great start and looks completely comfortable in his current spot on the roster.

[Henry Fool]

Young center with 17 career NHL games. Much too early to talk about a ceiling. I have no idea. I don't even know how much goal scoring will figure in his career.

His maturity kind of tricks you into thinking that he doesn't have that much room to grow but let's remember he's still just learning to play in the league.

Would like to see him shoot more. He doesn't get to use his shot currently at all. Langkow is a much better comparison than Mikko Koivu.

[Parallex]

2nd Line forward would be my guess, probably on the wing. I'm more excited about his floor because I think he looks like a legitimate NHL player out there and clearing "bust" as the floor is a pretty big acheivement.