2016/2017 THE Premier League Thread

[devo22]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

he fixed Dortmund after Klopp broke it

lol no he didn't. Last year the results were there in the league, but by now, I guess about 9 out of 10 Dortmund fans would be more than happy to get rid of Tuchel.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

This is interesting out of Dortmund

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...edium=referral

a ton of other places have it too, to me that's the kind of guy Arsenal should be going after, he fixed Dortmund after Klopp broke it

if they keep Wenger for another year or two might miss out

I don't really understand the love that Tuchel gets in the media. He seems incapable of coaching defense and to me seems to get his tactical/team decisions wrong more often than not in big matches

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by devo22

lol no he didn't. Last year the results were there in the league, but by now, I guess about 9 out of 10 Dortmund fans would be more than happy to get rid of Tuchel.

Ya but that's not on results I don't think, from what ive seen its moreso the backroom stuff

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

I don't really understand the love that Tuchel gets in the media. He seems incapable of coaching defense and to me seems to get his tactical/team decisions wrong more often than not in big matches

similar to Klopp but I think with Tuchel at least he lost a lot of the backline talent Klopp had

[devo22]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Ya but that's not on results I don't think, from what ive seen its moreso the backroom stuff

it's not just that, it also has to do a lot with tactics and on-field performances. His personnel decisions have been questionable too, talented players like Mor and Merino have been completely frozen out while players like Durm and Schürrle get opportunity after opportunity. He's also had disagreements and conflicts with many backroom figures and completely banned their chief scout Sven Mislintat, who discovered players like Lewandowski, Kagawa and Aubameyang, from all training sessions.

Fans don't think limping to 3rd or 4th this season is a huge accomplishment, given that teams like Leverkusen, Schalke, Gladbach and Wolfsburg have all struggled mightily this year. They also don't think the on-field performances personnel decisions and are good enough to keep him, especially with the ongoing drama behind the scenes. It's obvious Watzke and Zorc dislike him and like I said, most fans do too. He'll be gone in the summer and it'll be interesting whether they can make a run for Julian Nagelsmann (who has been widely tipped to move to Bayern in 2018). Lucien Favre, Peter Bosz and Paulo Sousa are other candidates that have been mentioned in the media.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Prediction: Thierry Henry will be the next Arsenal manager after Wenger goes. Nothing to back it up, just a guess that Kroeke looks at what Zidane has done at Real and figures lightning can strike for him too.

[d_phaneuf]

I can't see it unless it's a long way away

Look at what has happened to these other top clubs in England who made managerial mistakes, takes years to get back

[Slava]

Congrats Vlad and Chelsea as they've wrapped up the league!

[d_phaneuf]

Conte knew Batman was going to be the difference

[Locke]

So Jose isnt 'Special' anymore? Anyone can win with Chelsea...

[Slava]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Conte knew Batman was going to be the difference

There were some big flops in the transfer market from last summer, but has to be right up there. $33m for two goals and no starts? That's pretty crazy underperformance.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Slava

There were some big flops in the transfer market from last summer, but has to be right up there. $33m for two goals and no starts? That's pretty crazy underperformance.

I think it was more with trusting issues from Conte and playing time

time and time again these young players make huge mistakes going to Chelsea or City or Madrid and Barca etc.

Sanches at Bayern has gone backwards last season

KDB and Lukaku flopped at Chelsea before going to other clubs and rebuilding

too many to count at City over the past few years

if you are under 24 and not an absolute world class talent, makes no sense to move to clubs like that

even if Costa leaves this summer, Batman is just going to be behind whichever big name striker they bring in anyway

[devo22]

congrats Chelsea, well deserved.

[lazypucker]

So Spurs is 2nd, and then a fight to get to the top 4.

Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal - which 2 teams do you think will get in?

[devo22]

Liverpool and City. United will solely focus on EL, and personally I think it's too little too late from Arsenal.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Mahrez just kicked it off himself and into the net for his penalty, which was ruled out. Not sure I've ever seen that before, good spot by the ref.

[devo22]

Swansea up 2-0 at Sunderland. That's almost curtains for Hull.

[Locke]

I can already feel the loss to West Ham coming. Its in the air.

Andy Carroll hat-trick.

[devo22]

Arsene kicking Liverpool out of the top 4 would give me a lot more pleasure than I'd like to admit.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Mahrez just kicked it off himself and into the net for his penalty, which was ruled out. Not sure I've ever seen that before, good spot by the ref.

Griezzman did it Wednesday but the ref missed it

[d_phaneuf]

West ham should be a tough game for Liverpool but they are coming down off their cup final and the season is technically over so their minds might be at Ibiza already

It would be much more of a slip for them to lose to Boro next week anyway

Either way city and arsenal get in I think. United do through EL