[PGT] Flames 4 : Kings 2 - Losing Streak’s Over

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The uptick in ENG goals happened a few years ago. It’s relatively stable now.

Does it correspond with the dumbass coaches pulling goalies with 3+ minutes left?

Pretty dumb to think you can maintain possession long enough to make it worthwhile

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Does it correspond with the dumbass coaches pulling goalies with 3+ minutes left?

Pretty dumb to think you can maintain possession long enough to make it worthwhile

Why is that dumb? Because they've always done it with 1 minute left so that must be smart?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Why is that dumb? Because they've always done it with 1 minute left so that must be smart?

What have you been saying this whole conversation? Answer: goal differential is up due to empty net goals. Why are empty net goals up? Because coaches are pulling the goalie much earlier.

So yes, it's dumb. Because it isn't working.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

What have you been saying this whole conversation? Answer: goal differential is up due to empty net goals. Why are empty net goals up? Because coaches are pulling the goalie much earlier.

So yes, it's dumb. Because it isn't working.

No, I've been saying that using goal differential including ENGs to evaluate competitive balance in the league is silly, not that pulling the goalie earlier is dumb.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by butterfly

No, I've been saying that using goal differential including ENGs to evaluate competitive balance in the league is silly, not that pulling the goalie earlier is dumb.

I never said that you said pulling the goalie was dumb. Maybe take a moment to read and digest before responding. We aren't getting paid by the word here.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

What have you been saying this whole conversation? Answer: goal differential is up due to empty net goals. Why are empty net goals up? Because coaches are pulling the goalie much earlier.

So yes, it's dumb. Because it isn't working.

Originally Posted by butterfly

No, I've been saying that using goal differential including ENGs to evaluate competitive balance in the league is silly, not that pulling the goalie earlier is dumb.

I rarely have a long response, so I'm not sure why you'd accuse me of being paid by the word.

[GioforPM]

The teams leading in goal differential this season are not doing so based on ENGs.

https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/nhl...rential-leader

https://morehockeystats.com/teams/en

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The teams leading in goal differential this season are not doing so based on ENGs.

https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/nhl...rential-leader

https://morehockeystats.com/teams/en

Yeah, I get there might be an uptick in ENGs in recent years, but in my mind the only way a team with a +50 differential isn't good is if the rest of the league has a +200 diff.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Yeah, I get there might be an uptick in ENGs in recent years, but in my mind the only way a team with a +50 differential isn't good is if the rest of the league has a +200 diff.

As I have already pointed out, the increase in empty-net goals amounts to less than five goals per team per year. That does not begin to account for the change in goal differentials.