04-27-2024, 02:17 PM
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#501
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Yep, players start squeezing their sticks and getting nervous about making every shot on net count, when the rare opportunities due to come up to get a quality shot on net.
Not to mention, how many playoff goals are random, innocent looking plays where a player just tosses the puck towards the net with traffic? Under Tocchet's strategy you're basically eliminating those kinds of goals from your repertoire. You simply can't do that.
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It's less make every shot count rather make sure every shot is a good one which means it needs team buy in. The Canucks have literally been doing this same style all season. Passing up shots from outside or distance without traffic to hold the puck and wait for a chance from towards the slot or for traffic to form in front. We've seen three top guys have career years under this system as well as players like Dakota Joshua and Nils Hoglander.
I'm less concerned about player confidence and more concerned that, much like the Canes style of "SHOOT ALL THE THINGS!", a seven game series will see teams key on this strategy and find ways to nullify it. You're seeing the Predators just make sure there are less and less clean shooting lanes and more and more.
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04-27-2024, 02:33 PM
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#502
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by D as in David
That strategy is a confidence-killer and leads to players becoming more tentative in their play. See also Darryl Sutter.
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This is the anti Sutter system lol. Shot volume is king for him. 25 attempts on net in a game, he would have lost it.
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04-27-2024, 02:38 PM
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#503
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
This is the anti Sutter system lol. Shot volume is king for him. 25 attempts on net in a game, he would have lost it.
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You're right. I was thinking of Darryl's twin in the other dimension.
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04-27-2024, 02:40 PM
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#504
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
It's less make every shot count rather make sure every shot is a good one which means it needs team buy in. The Canucks have literally been doing this same style all season. Passing up shots from outside or distance without traffic to hold the puck and wait for a chance from towards the slot or for traffic to form in front. We've seen three top guys have career years under this system as well as players like Dakota Joshua and Nils Hoglander.
I'm less concerned about player confidence and more concerned that, much like the Canes style of "SHOOT ALL THE THINGS!", a seven game series will see teams key on this strategy and find ways to nullify it. You're seeing the Predators just make sure there are less and less clean shooting lanes and more and more.
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This also means players aren't playing reflexively and end up playing slower.
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04-27-2024, 02:45 PM
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#505
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D as in David
This also means players aren't playing reflexively and end up playing slower.
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Yup.
It’s hard to find the perfect system, but again not everyone is built like Colorado but transitioning with speed in numbers allows you to open lanes naturally and also apply pressure with speed and volume.
That was the issue with the Flames. They would transition and fire useless shots from far out that would be one and done.
Not allowing guys to get to the net to get a rebound and shooting into the goalies crest.
I’m just looking this Islanders goal. A bad angle to shoot from but he made the goalie throw out a bad rebound which led to a goal.
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04-27-2024, 02:53 PM
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#506
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D as in David
This also means players aren't playing reflexively and end up playing slower.
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Huh? If you have a clear look on net, you'll reflexively shoot it. If you have a bad look on net, you'll reflexively make a pass or hold possession.
These are NHL players. The best in the world. They're already not reflexively taking bad shots. What a silly take.
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Last edited by Blaster86; 04-27-2024 at 02:55 PM.
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04-27-2024, 04:13 PM
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#507
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Huh? If you have a clear look on net, you'll reflexively shoot it. If you have a bad look on net, you'll reflexively make a pass or hold possession.
These are NHL players. The best in the world. They're already not reflexively taking bad shots. What a silly take.
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Except that time "Petey" had that "clear look" and opted for a terrible fail of a saucer to Garland in the slot instead.
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04-27-2024, 04:14 PM
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#508
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
Except that time "Petey" had that "clear look" and opted for a terrible fail of a saucer to Garland in the slot instead.
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Petey has been awful in general.
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04-27-2024, 04:15 PM
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#509
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Miller has been good. I'm looking forward to Aquilini's next tweet if Canucks advance to stick it to the fans...
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04-28-2024, 01:06 PM
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#510
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Franchise Player
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Sounds like DeSmith is injured now lol
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04-28-2024, 01:20 PM
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#511
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Canucks fans better get on that "You can do it Arturs" video fast. Game is a few hours away.
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04-28-2024, 01:24 PM
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#512
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Franchise Player
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Well I can't think of a scenario that is worse than this for the Canucks. I wonder whether DeSmith was injured when whatshisname was assessed the two minutes for goaltender interference. That would explain why the NHL felt the need to assess a fine.
Either way though - that is a tough loss for any team, let alone a team struggling as much in the offensive zone as the Canucks are.
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04-28-2024, 01:36 PM
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#513
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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04-28-2024, 01:42 PM
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#514
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Oh my lord....
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04-28-2024, 01:43 PM
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#515
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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This is what Vegas went through last year.
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04-28-2024, 01:48 PM
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#516
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Lol Springer
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04-28-2024, 01:51 PM
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#517
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
This is what Vegas went through last year.
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Adin Hill was a much more proven NHL goaltender than Silovs though who is almost 4 years younger with significantly less NHL experiences than Hill. This is the Alibaba version of what Vegas went through last year I suppose.
Although Silovs did win the MVP at the world championships less than a year ago so maybe he is a player who thrives on pressure and will turn into the next 1986 Patrick Roy.
Last edited by Mean Mr. Mustard; 04-28-2024 at 01:56 PM.
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04-28-2024, 01:55 PM
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#518
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Franchise Player
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Who is the backup to the backup of the backup if Silovs goes down next?
Zach Sawchenko? At least has a few games of NHL experience! I would pay money to have Demko back if they're playing Edmonton in round two.
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...php?pid=162463
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04-28-2024, 02:13 PM
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#519
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 55...Can you see us now?
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Must be blowing up the Canucks teams AHL and ECHL down the line…and juniors too once season is done.
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04-28-2024, 02:15 PM
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#520
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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Told it is illness related and not an injury for DeSmith.
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