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Old 06-14-2017, 09:32 AM   #41
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1. Who does Vegas take from the Flames?

Brouwer (I might be the only that likes him around here)

2. Who is our starting goalie?

Smith
(barf)

3. Who is our #4 defenseman?

Stone (I think he re-signs)

4. Who is our top line RW?

Vanek

5. Who is our back up goalie?

Johnson

6. What happens with the 16th pick?

Traded down
. Flames select Ostap Safin

7. Any Flames traded away in this time period?

Bouma


8. Any other UFA signing?

Roman Polak
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:41 AM   #42
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1. Who does Vegas take from the Flames?
Matt Stajan

2. Who is our starting goalie?
Antti Raanta following deal with Rangers for our 2nd and extra 4th from the Panthers in 2018

3. Who is our #4 defenseman?
Beats me...I've been trying to figure that one out for awhile now.

4. Who is our top line RW?
Micheal Ferland...for now.

5. Who is our back up goalie?
Chad Johnson

6. What happens with the 16th pick?
Flames use it to draft player TBD

7. Any Flames traded away in this time period?
No roster players, but likely picks and perhaps prospects.

8. Any other UFA signing?
Chad Johnson is re-signed, and probably 2 defensemen: A #4 and a #5/6: TBD
yes?
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:45 AM   #43
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1. Who does Vegas take from the Flames? Brouwer

2. Who is our starting goalie? MAF

3. Who is our #4 defenseman? Andersson (Stone plays on 3rd pairing with Kulak)

4. Who is our top line RW? Ferland

5. Who is our back up goalie? Rittich

6. What happens with the 16th pick? Traded away to move up a few spots to select Timothy Liljergen

7. Any Flames traded away in this time period? No

8. Any other UFA signing? (Other than Stone/Versteeg) Marleau, Iginla
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:46 AM   #44
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Wondering why so many people on here are saying Vegas will pick Brouwer? Has there been rumours?

If Vegas wanted a played like him wouldn't there be a lot better options at a cheaper price tag?
Anybody who says they pick Brouwer should also be stating what else goes to Vegas along with him, because they aren't taking him without Treliving sweetening it up.
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:51 AM   #45
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Anybody who says they pick Brouwer should also be stating what else goes to Vegas along with him, because they aren't taking him without Treliving sweetening it up.
He's the best player they have to choose from between him, Stajan, Bouma, Chiasson, Freddie, and a handful of unproven prospects, and that's going off his down season and not taking into account that he could easily bounce back to 35+ point form.
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:53 AM   #46
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Vegas may not be interested in taking on Brouwer's salary/term without getting something younger, cheaper or a pick from it.
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:57 AM   #47
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Thanks - so the games played is only a criteria for a minimum of two forwards. Seems silly, because I can't think of a team which wouldn't have to expose a couple forwards that would meet the criteria, rule or no.
The Rangers are in a position where they're going to need to leave at least one player exposed who they'd likely prefer to protect, unless they can get a deal done before Saturday to either sign or acquire a player who meets the exposure requirement.

Right now, they only have 7 forwards who meet the exposure requirement and will be forced to expose two of them, likely Kevin Hayes and Michael Grabner. Other teams are in similar situations where they have 7 or fewer exposure eligible forwards, but most have a couple they won't mind exposing (like the Flames with Stajan and Bouma).



The Flames made deals this season to get a couple of players specifically to meet the exposure requirements for goalies and defencemen. Tom McCollum and Matt Bartkowski were both signed to two-year contracts so that they'd be eligible for exposure in the expansion draft. I'm sure the Flames weren't the only team to make similar deals, and without them, they'd be forced to expose players they'd rather keep.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:05 AM   #48
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Vegas may not be interested in taking on Brouwer's salary/term without getting something younger, cheaper or a pick from it.
You bet they will take Brouwer, for the right price

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According to general manager George McPhee, the Vegas Golden Knights are willing to take on players with high cap hits - for a price.
McPhee told the Las Vegas Review-Journal the Golden Knights have been offered high-figure contracts from teams looking to get under the salary cap and the Knights aren't against spending the money for a return.

“We have a lot of teams offering us big contracts,” McPhee said. “We’ll take a few of those, for the right price.”
http://www.tsn.ca/mcphee-vegas-willi...racts-1.770322
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:07 AM   #49
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You bet they will take Brouwer, for the right price



http://www.tsn.ca/mcphee-vegas-willi...racts-1.770322
1. Flames don't need to give up assets to shed salary, we are not in cap trouble
2. Again, Brouwer is the best player out of what they have to choose from

I imagine that article is more about players like Dustin Brown who is 32, has 5 years left with a $5.875 million cap hit and $25.5 million real dollars owed.

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The next 3 weeks are going to be crazy, and most of the Flames big questions for next season will be answered during this time period.

Let's see what kind of answers CPers think we will get to these questions.



1. Who does Vegas take from the Flames?

Matt Stajan

2. Who is our starting goalie?

Mike Smith

3. Who is our #4 defenseman?

Stone
4. Who is our top line RW?

Neal
5. Who is our back up goalie?

Rittich
6. What happens with the 16th pick?
traded down

7. Any Flames traded away in this time period?

Troy Brouwer

8. Any other UFA signing?

Depth defenceman for bottom pairing. Russell perhaps
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:19 AM   #51
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So he thinks Tre will expose the 25 year old big, fast winger who scored 15 goals and will probably cost about $1.5 million against the cap and protect the 32 year old big, slow winger who scored 13 goals and costs $4.5 million against the cap?

Yeah, that seems plausible.
Not to mention that he has twice been asked in interviews about Ferland and responded that he is "just scratching the surface"... I seriously doubt the Flames are interested in seeing how good Ferland will turn out with the Golden Knights.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:19 AM   #52
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If I'm Vegas I take Chiasson over Brouwer 10/10. Cheaper has some upside and costs way less for similar production. Either way the flames are in a good spot as far as losing minimal talent and no team should ever be counting on an expansion draft or cap-wise buyouts to get out of contracts.

My Vegas expansion choices from flames in order of what I see them wanting:
1. Sign Versteeg (need top 6 talent)
2. Sign Stone (best player available but overpayment is the only way I see him signing there)
3. Sign Engalland (good fit, lives there, don't see Vegas using a selection on him as he's likely to sign there anyway after July 1st)
4. Kulak (Best player available that would be under team control, likely to clear waivers)
5. Chiasson (see above, good and cheap depth)
6. Brouwer ( leadership, familiar with McPhee, could bounce back)
136. Stajan or Bouma (next to no value, high cap hits, better options available in free agency, Stajan is a good guy but could probably be had this year for a 7th or next season for free)
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:22 AM   #53
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If I'm Vegas I take Chiasson over Brouwer 10/10. Cheaper has some upside and costs way less for similar production. Either way the flames are in a good spot as far as losing minimal talent and no team should ever be counting on an expansion draft or cap-wise buyouts to get out of contracts.

My Vegas expansion choices from flames in order of what I see them wanting:
1. Sign Versteeg (need top 6 talent)
2. Sign Stone (best player available but overpayment is the only way I see him signing there)
3. Sign Engalland (good fit, lives there, don't see Vegas using a selection on him as he's likely to sign there anyway after July 1st)
4. Kulak (Best player available that would be under team control, likely to clear waivers)
5. Chiasson (see above, good and cheap depth)
6. Brouwer ( leadership, familiar with McPhee, could bounce back)
136. Stajan or Bouma (next to no value, high cap hits, better options available in free agency, Stajan is a good guy but could probably be had this year for a 7th or next season for free)
One thing about Chiasson is he's an RFA, and Vegas has a limit of 10 RFA's that they can take. I'm not sure what other RFA's will be available or how they stack up against Chiasson, but it's something to think about. Same thing to consider with Kulak too.
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Yeah? I didn't know that, I guess they'd have to make a list of where Kulak and Chiasson stackup with the other RFA's. Another rule playing into the flames favour

Edit: Still think Versteeg is their best option especially if the flames low-ball him.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:27 AM   #55
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How did you come up with that list Kipper_3434? It almost looks like you based it on what is best for the Knights.

The best thing for the Flames is for Brouwer to be chosen. So that is what the Knights will do.
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Yeah? I didn't know that, I guess they'd have to make a list of where Kulak and Chiasson stackup with the other RFA's. Another rule playing into the flames favour

Edit: Still think Versteeg is their best option especially if the flames low-ball him.
Signing Versteeg doesn't seem overly crazy. He wants to be in Calgary but with the way his last off season went, he might jump if they offer him anything decent. Plus Vegas will be short on top 6 talent, and Versteeg has shown he can still put up better than 0.5 ppg numbers.
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How did you come up with that list Kipper_3434? It almost looks like you based it on what is best for the Knights.

The best thing for the Flames is for Brouwer to be chosen. So that is what the Knights will do.

Haha yes! We all wish. I actually made the list based on who the flames would pick if they were the expansion team. Oddly they wouldn't be very interested in Brouwer. Probably cause he's already under contract and we wouldn't be able to sign him to a brand new one that overpays him for 4 years.
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Signing Versteeg doesn't seem overly crazy. He wants to be in Calgary but with the way his last off season went, he might jump if they offer him anything decent. Plus Vegas will be short on top 6 talent, and Versteeg has shown he can still put up better than 0.5 ppg numbers.
Exactly my thoughts. Oh and that little thing called Stanley cup experience. I believe he has even more than playoff phenom Troy Brouwer.
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They're not taking Brouwer over Kulak unless we give them something else.
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They're not taking Brouwer over Kulak unless we give them something else.
I'd give them Kulak to take Brouwer, would they even want him for free though?
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