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Old 08-21-2017, 06:20 PM   #3121
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Didn't actually know that. I need to brush up on my GoT geography I guess.
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Old 08-21-2017, 06:22 PM   #3122
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Regardless, once the dead come piling toward Jon & Co. and the ice gives way, it already seems to be dusk, or at least close to the end of the day. So let’s be generous and say that it’s perhaps 6 p.m. when Jon & Co. become stranded. The Hound decides to invite obliteration the following morning shortly after waking up by throwing stones at the wights—we don’t know quite how far into the morning, but once again, let’s be generous and say noon. In that case, it means that Jon & Co. were stranded on that rock awaiting rescue for roughly 18 hours.
Why does it have to be the next day. Did I miss them saying it was the next day. The entire lake frozen solid after breaking. The priest froze to death.

They have heat from a flaming sword and ice to melt for water. They easily could have been standing there 3-4 days.

Sure they didn't show it, and should have, but did it actually say at any point the events were the next day?
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Old 08-21-2017, 07:38 PM   #3123
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Nope, I thought watching.it was a few days at least
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:03 PM   #3124
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It's hard to say what the actual scale is. They seem to have pretty great ships available to them, yet the map of the known world is tiny. The distance from dragonstone to Casterly rock is apparently easily navigable by both Dany's forces and Euron. Yet, the map of the known world extends not much that further than that same distance to the East.
Maybe they have very poor Cartograpghers in westoros.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:53 PM   #3125
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They could have done it better. Show the group huddled by the fire, shivering, a couple day and night cycles...or have Bran send a message to Dany via his powers (or better yet warg into a dragon and fly off or something)

Either way, loved the episode, but it felt a little disjointed.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:12 PM   #3126
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I wonder how the whole thing plays out if the Hound doesn't pull a Peregrin Took and goad the wights into bum rushing their island. when the dragons arrive, the dead army would be all around the perimeter of the lake, and close to the walker generals. then they would have been part of the strafing run and we could have seen once and for all if they are impervious to dragonfire or not.

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Old 08-22-2017, 08:02 AM   #3127
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Here's the one thing I don't get, why does the Night King chuck the spear at one of the flying dragons instead of the one that's just sitting there?
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Duh. For the bloody death that makes us all genuinely sad about the death of a character for the first time ever.
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:57 AM   #3130
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Here's the one thing I don't get, why does the Night King chuck the spear at one of the flying dragons instead of the one that's just sitting there?
I could be remembering wrong, but wasn't the one he threw the spear at coming right for him, ready to turn him into a Night King Kabob? So, uhmm...self defence?
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:58 AM   #3131
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Here's the one thing I don't get, why does the Night King chuck the spear at one of the flying dragons instead of the one that's just sitting there?
why didn't he just throw his ice spears at the captive prey on the ice float hours or even days earlier?
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why didn't he just throw his ice spears at the captive prey on the ice float hours or even days earlier?


Trap to find some way to get over the wall for his army? Maybe the night king knows about dragons.
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why didn't he just throw his ice spears at the captive prey on the ice float hours or even days earlier?
He wanted a dragon? IDK, that whole plot line was dumb and the execution of the dragon rescue/escape was very poor.
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why didn't he just throw his ice spears at the captive prey on the ice float hours or even days earlier?
He knew the dragons would eventually come and was using the marooned group to lure Dany and her dragons.

We don't really know how the NK's powers work, but he seemed way to prepared for those dragons.
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Old 08-22-2017, 12:09 PM   #3135
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Duh. For the bloody death that makes us all genuinely sad about the death of a character for the first time ever.
Whoa whoa whoa. Hold the door. The first time?
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He knew the dragons would eventually come and was using the marooned group to lure Dany and her dragons.

We don't really know how the NK's powers work, but he seemed way to prepared for those dragons.
All this has happened before, and it will happen again.

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Whoa whoa whoa. Hold the door. The first time?
I think so, off the top of my head. My wife and I were genuinely sad. Everyone else it seemed more shocking I suppose. Even Ned. But I'm sure I'm missing a few key deaths...?
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I think so, off the top of my head. My wife and I were genuinely sad. Everyone else it seemed more shocking I suppose. Even Ned. But I'm sure I'm missing a few key deaths...?
Yes...Hold The Door was a key hint...
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I felt worse for Summer than Hodor, guess I don't care about people as much as animals.
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why didn't he just throw his ice spears at the captive prey on the ice float hours or even days earlier?
He's in no rush; the brotherhood etc... were surrounded, and his army is dead and has all the time in the world.
Maybe throwing icicles are expensive.
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