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Old 02-26-2017, 05:24 PM   #41
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Weak draft everyone. Weak draft. 1sts outside the top 15 are likely being valued closer to a low 2nd/high 3rd
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:24 PM   #42
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I might be in the minority in this, but I feel like Hanzal is really overrated. Glad Minny went all in for him and not us.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:24 PM   #43
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That s a lot to pay for a 2nd line rental. Granted it is a weak draft. Don't get me wrong would have liked to see him as a flames rental, but not at that price.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:27 PM   #44
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That payment makes sense for a team that's looking like a serious cup contender, and desperate for success. Lots of important players in their thirties too. (Koivu, Suter, Parise, Staal, Pominville...)

Would not have made sense for the Flames.

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Old 02-26-2017, 05:27 PM   #45
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MIN also receives a 2017 fourth-round pick back from ARI as part of the Hanzal trade.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:29 PM   #46
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So I take it this drives up the price for Landeskog and Duchene?
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:31 PM   #47
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Nm

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Old 02-26-2017, 05:31 PM   #48
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Minny overpaid big time
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:32 PM   #49
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Weak draft, and the first round pick could likely be around 26-30. It's not like the Wild gave up a prime draft pick for Hanzal. The additional picks make this a win for Arizona, but if it was just a 1st round pick, it's a fair trade for both.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:34 PM   #50
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Lightning going to get good value for Brian Boyle.
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So Arizona will continue to perpetually rebuild and suck for several more years. At some point that organization needs to find a way to make actual hockey changes instead of praying that something in the brightly wrapped package will pan out.
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So Arizona will continue to perpetually rebuild and suck for several more years. At some point that organization needs to find a way to make actual hockey changes instead of praying that something in the brightly wrapped package will pan out.
Not until they move to Quebec City.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:40 PM   #53
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It would basically be like trading the 45th-50th pick in last year's draft comparatively. Not a bad trade for either side.

Perhaps the Arizona GM can utilize that 1st and take someone else's garbage like they did last year to move up when they took on Datsyuk's contract to get Chychrun.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:45 PM   #54
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With all this talk about it being a bad draft, would be funny to see all these picks end up being gems, turning the draft year to in fact be a great one.
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:46 PM   #55
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Wednesday is going to be the Wideman show, Dennis should show up simply in the panel and discuss his potential trade call.

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Old 02-26-2017, 05:47 PM   #56
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conditional pick is 2019 4th round pick

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Conditional pick: If MIN wins one playoff round this year, it becomes 3rd round pick; if MIN wins two rounds, it becomes 2nd round pick.

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Also, ARI retains 50 per cent of Hanzal's salary.
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:06 PM   #57
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So Arizona will continue to perpetually rebuild and suck for several more years. At some point that organization needs to find a way to make actual hockey changes instead of praying that something in the brightly wrapped package will pan out.
This is the thing with draft picks and the value fans put on them. The reality is that they are such a crap shoot. It's a good return for AZ, but I agree this makes them worse for the foreseeable future (yet again), unless they turn some of these picks into tangible players.
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:11 PM   #58
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1st and two seconds...

Sounds familiar.

the situations aren't comparable at all but one package gets a Dougie and the other a rental Hanzal
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Crash out in the second round still.
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:46 PM   #60
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Yeah I wouldn't have traded a 1st, 2nd and more for Hanzal.
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