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Old 02-27-2017, 02:40 PM   #1421
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Ranieri to Liverpool, because if he can win the league with a 5000-1, he might be able to do it at Liverpool.
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:40 PM   #1422
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Strange, but maybe it's not their year after all?
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:20 PM   #1423
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On New Years Day, Liverpool were five points from the top. Today Liverpool are only five points ahead of Everton and 7th. I would think if they actually finish behind Everton that will probably be enough to sack Klopp.
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:32 PM   #1424
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Way too early to be talking about firing Klopp. This is his first full season in charge here. He has to be allowed to bring in a few more players, and given some more time to sort out a defence that has been shaky for years.
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:33 PM   #1425
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Its not like its a situation unique to Klopp either, Liverpool are notorious for winning the 'Big Games' and then falling flat against the minnows.
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:38 PM   #1426
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firing him would be insane

if he doesnt sort out the defense this summer id be worried, he never really had to at Dortmund cause of the skill gap and having Hummels as the anchor

but he gets another year at least

Arsenal would pounce in a second if he left Liverpool
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Old 02-27-2017, 05:41 PM   #1427
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Arsenal would pounce in a second if he left Liverpool
a penny pincher replacing a penny pincher. I'm sure Arsenal would love him.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:38 PM   #1428
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Way too early to be talking about firing Klopp. This is his first full season in charge here. He has to be allowed to bring in a few more players, and given some more time to sort out a defence that has been shaky for years.
Way too early to be talking about firing Klopp the way it was way too early to talk about firing vanGaal?

I don't see any reason to have any faith that he's the man to turn the club around. And as for the defence ... I'll let Carragher respond to that one
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Jamie Carragher says Jurgen Klopp must take the blame for Liverpool's dreadful defeat at Leicester City – and is showing too much faith in underperforming players. Klopp's side slumped to a 3-1 reverse at managerless Leicester City on Monday night to remain outside the Champions League qualification places.
Lucas Leiva, once again playing as a makeshift centre-back in the absence of injured Dejan Lovren, endured a difficult evening up against Jamie Vardy, who scored twice.
But Liverpool legend Carragher says the Brazilian was exposed by Klopp's tactics and team selection.
“I think he (Klopp) has far too much faith in certain players, really,” he said, speaking on Sky Sports' Monday Night Football.
“He has to make changes in the summer. And while I'm not saying tonight is a good thing, it reinforces the changes that need to be made.
“Sometimes as a Liverpool fan, when it's going well you kid yourself about certain things.
“I love James Milner, but he's not a left-back.
“Lucas Leiva I'm sure is getting plenty of stick off Liverpool fans tonight, but I actually felt so sorry for that lad. I was happy when he came off.
“I have no blame for him. He shouldn't be playing there. It's like putting me at right wing and saying 'why aren't you beating your full-back?'.
“I can't. There's no way I can possibly do it. And there's no way Lucas can catch Vardy in a sprint if the team are pushed up to the halfway line.
“He was put in a position that completely exposed him. There should be no blame attached to him.
“The blame for that should be with Jurgen Klopp for putting him in that position.”
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Carragher also remains concerned Liverpool have no Plan B. “My other problem is Liverpool always play the same way,” he said. “What's wrong with Liverpool going to a side like Leicester and saying 'okay, what do they want to do to us?'. Why couldn't they let Morgan and Huth have the ball and use Mane and his pace?
“Instead, Liverpool's two centre-backs are on the halfway line and Leicester break. (Burnley's) Andre Gray did it, Niasse did it for Hull and it was the same for Jamie Vardy tonight.
“I don't know why it hasn't changed or there is no difference in tactics for certain games.”
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:57 PM   #1429
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Way too early to be talking about firing Klopp the way it was way too early to talk about firing vanGaal?

I don't see any reason to have any faith that he's the man to turn the club around. And as for the defence ... I'll let Carragher respond to that one
I'm not really sure what your point is. LVG didn't work out, so that means Klopp won't?

The reason to give him a chance to turn the club around is because of what he did at Dortmund. Did you really expect him to replicate that success in one season in England?
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:04 PM   #1430
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What do you see in Klopp apart from a load of enthusiasm?

My point is he's very similar to van Gaal in regards to ideas.

Do you feel Carragher is wrong? Does he have a plan B? He's had 2 weeks to prepare for today's game.

And this is pretty much season 2.

Anyways, is Carragher wrong and how do you think he's going to change things and why after a season and a half is it starting to look like same old.
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What do you see in Klopp apart from a load of enthusiasm?

My point is he's very similar to van Gaal in regards to ideas.

Do you feel Carragher is wrong? Does he have a plan B? He's had 2 weeks to prepare for today's game.

And this is pretty much season 2.

Anyways, is Carragher wrong and how do you think he's going to change things and why after a season and a half is it starting to look like same old.
He was brought in to build a team, not get instant results. It would be a colossal waste of time and resources to bring in him in and then not allow him a chance to build.

Two of his signings in Mane and Matip have looked like our better players so far. If he can make two more signings of that quality this summer then we'll be a lot better off next time around.

It's not like I'm trying to guarantee his success here, but I'd WAY rather give him a real shot at succeeding then keep the manager merry-go-round going.
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Old 02-28-2017, 08:55 AM   #1432
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Gundogan signs for Man United

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So? Like he'll ever play, he's always inju-oh, wait.

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Old 02-28-2017, 04:43 PM   #1434
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Rumour is that Leicester is talking to Roy Hodgson...
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Old 02-28-2017, 09:05 PM   #1435
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It's not like I'm trying to guarantee his success here, but I'd WAY rather give him a real shot at succeeding then keep the manager merry-go-round going.
All I'm saying is that as a United fan having lived through the disappointments that were Moyes and van Gaal I see a similar pattern with Klopp. High expectations but a failure to deliver.

And you could make the same argument for both of them in that they were given a real shot at succeeding when the obvious gut feeling and the smart thing (in hindsight) was to cut them both loose much earlier when the signs were there that they were lacking in some sense of a solid plan. United lost a year because they gave van Gaal a real chance.

What I was most concerned about when Klopp arrived was that he had the inside scoop on all the bargains and young up and coming talent in the bundesliga. So far so good.
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Booya. Carrick with a testimonial.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Fe...-Trafford.aspx

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Just cuz I'm reminiscing.

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Old 03-04-2017, 06:24 AM   #1437
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Kevin Friend having a shocker in the United/Bournemouth game. Missed a clear red card for Mings (stomp to Ibras head ... should be a really long ban IMO) and a red card for Ibra (elbow to Mings ... in retaliation, I guess). Instead he sent off Surman, after needing 5 minutes or so to realize that he had shown him a yellow twice.
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Old 03-04-2017, 06:28 AM   #1438
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Ya that was an odd sequence. I'm sure Mings will see a suspension for that stamp. That was nasty.
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Old 03-04-2017, 07:28 AM   #1439
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Bravo Bournemouth!
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I usually like Bournemouth, but that was a disgusting display in so many ways. Shame they got rewarded today.

United have nobody to blame but themselves. Absolutely must win this game.
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