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Old 06-17-2017, 12:04 PM   #241
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I like that deal a lot. My guess is negotiations with Hickey were not going well.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:04 PM   #242
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Have to think the condition is if Hickey doesn't sign with them.

Love the value Treliving got on this.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:04 PM   #243
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If you want to take potshots at CGY for Smith, do it for his age. Harping on unadjusted Sv% won't get that argument where you want it to go.

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I don't believe in small samples, but here is Smith against Antti Raanta, another rumored target for CGY:

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Old 06-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #244
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Wow. Smith might not be elite but I'm surprised at how many people here dislike him
Stats...notice how all the guys people like are on good teams.

Smith will be really motivated playing for an actual NHL franchise IMO
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #245
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Good deal, keep our first now and draft a solid prospect and get to have a stop gap goalie for 2 years until Gillies/Parsons hopefully take over. Losing Hickey sucks but obviously he wasn't gonna sign here.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #246
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there was never a reason to panic.
But I would so mad if Treliving traded a 1st!
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Assuming trade call gets done, ARI to retain 25 per cent of Smith's salary. CGY will send rights to Brandon Hickey + conditional 3rd rder...
Dealing another pick away?

Ugh.

Retaining 25% helps a bit but losing Hickey sucks, though I have little doubt its because Treliving figured he couldnt get him signed here.

All in all though there isnt a huge price being paid here so i guess its an OK deal....and can get better depending on Smiths performance.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #248
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How about Hunter Smith for Mike Smith? Seems fair.

Update: drat!

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Old 06-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #249
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Chad Johnson going the other way because the coyotes on have 1 goalie that they can expose/protect
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #250
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I really liked Hickey...didn't realize he wasn't going to sign. But in that case we basically gave up nothing for Smith. Nothing is good.
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Okay, and now yeah, thats a fantastic deal.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:05 PM   #252
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Ripoff. Could have used Hickey as part a big package.
The NHL functions in the real world not in the imaginary world that you wish was true.
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Sucks about Hickey, but he probably made it clear he'll be looking to go UFA next year, so it's not really a loss for the Flames at this point.
Wondering about that aspect of it myself.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:06 PM   #254
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All the panic for nothing. The lack of faith in Brad here is disturbing.

It's reasonable ASSUMING that Hickey was reluctant to sign.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:06 PM   #255
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Johnson in the deal makes sense, Arizona would have needed another goalie for expansion draft requirements
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:07 PM   #256
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What Hickey's potential.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:07 PM   #257
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Chad Johnson going the other way because the coyotes on have 1 goalie that they can expose/protect
So now they protect Johnson and still expose Domingue?

They can't expose a pending UFA in Johnson, but they can protect him.

Must be confident Domingue won't be taken by Vegas, which seems reasonable.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:07 PM   #258
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Still a liability at that price. But it could be worse I guess.
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:07 PM   #259
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News Update

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#Coyotes receive rights to goalie Chad Johnson, Brandon Hickey and a third-rounder that becomes a second-rounder if CGY makes playoffs.


Reminder that 3rd is likely the same pick that the Flames would have had to give up if they re-signed or traded Elliott
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Was really hoping for Grubauer or Raanta but the acquisition cost for Smith is extremely palatable. Dude was selected for the Olympics 3 years ago. If we can get that Smith behind our D this could be good.
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