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Old 07-24-2017, 10:28 AM   #2301
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Thought it was a great episode, just two things that bugged me.

1) The scene with Grey Worm and Missandei was awkward and went on pretty long. Compared with the rest of he episode, which was moving at a quick pace, felt like it went on too long.
I enjoyed the Missandei scene.
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:34 AM   #2302
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I think the mistranslation was a quick little joke the writers put in to make us temporarily think that now Daenerys is the "princess who was promised". But Melisandre quickly rejects the notion that the prophecy refers to Daenerys. Instead she sort of says "Yea, well, prophecies are tricky. But there is this guy Jon Snow who I've been backing, and you two need to meet".
hang on, unless I watched it wrong, I thought Missandei was talking to Dany when she said that her translation of prince/princess was wrong. I assumed Melisandre knew that the title was gender neutral and that it could be either Dany or Jon or a both of them.

they've shown Dany struggling a bit with her multilingualism in the past, like when Missandei was correcting her Dothraki. her high Valyrian is probably very good, but it's not used nearly as much as the common tongue, which I assume is still her first language.
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:42 AM   #2303
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Yeah that was my take as well.

Missandei only seemed to address Dany when correcting the translation. I understood it that Melisandre wasn't being told new information.
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:07 AM   #2304
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Yeah, that episode was clunky. Super Euron was pretty silly in my view. That whole battle scene seemed really hard to watch. ####ty cutting and too much clutter on the screen (with added embers) to really take in everything that was happening. Also, am I crazy, or did they actually speed up some of that footage?

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This was my take as well. There were times when I was kind of surprised at how...disjointed that episode was.

No big deal, every season has them, I think I was just holding them to a higher standard because they shortened the seasons.
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:08 AM   #2305
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Yeah that was my take as well.

Missandei only seemed to address Dany when correcting the translation. I understood it that Melisandre wasn't being told new information.
Yes, I agree. But once Dany understood there was a prophecy about a prince/princess that would bring the dawn, Dany immediately thought "oh, you must be talking about me, because I am the greatest, and need more titles at the end of my name". For a brief second, the viewers are lead to believe that Melisandre has switch allegiances yet again, and now she believes Dany is the chosen one.

But then Melisandre quickly rejects this, saying "well, prophecies are tricky. Both you and this guy Jon Snow have a role to play".


I took it to mean that Melisandre was diplomatically rejecting the notion that the prophecy was about Dany, and that Melisandre still believes that Jon Snow is the chosen one.

I suppose we could also read it straight, and that Melisandre doesn't want to get blinded by her beliefs and following prophets. At some level she believes Dany and Jon are important for the coming war, but she isn't sure anymore if there really is a chosen prince/princess, and if so, who that might be.

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And if Melisandre really is confused, maybe it's because the "prince who was promised" is the yet to be conceived, incestuous love child of Jon and Dany.

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Old 07-24-2017, 11:49 AM   #2306
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Missandei and Grey Worm's scene was awkward because they have zero chemistry. His dialogue was the worst part.

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Old 07-24-2017, 11:50 AM   #2307
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Missandei and Grey Worm's scene was awkward because they have zero chemistry. His dialogue was the worst part.

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It was about to get real awkward.
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:54 AM   #2308
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It was about to get real awkward.
I feel like this thread is gradually devolving into the 'conceptual penis' thread territory.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:03 PM   #2309
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I was still cringing this morning from Sam's amateur surgery. That scene transition was especially disgusting.
Seriously Samwell has the worst possible job in Westeros. I am not sure what was worse between the poop-soup and the puss-pie montage.

Looks like Arya's going to miss Jon again. I'm really hoping she goes up north and gives Little Finger a good poke with needle.
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Seriously Samwell has the worst possible job in Westeros. I am not sure what was worse between the poop-soup and the puss-pie montage.

Looks like Arya's going to miss Jon again. I'm really hoping she goes up north and gives Little Finger a good poke with needle.
That looks like Arias tragectory. There's some spoiler laden pre season photo s of her with one of little fingers possessions.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:32 PM   #2311
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Looks like Arya's going to miss Jon again. I'm really hoping she goes up north and gives Little Finger a good poke with needle.
Arya arrives at Winterfell and misses Jon, but her and little Lady Mormont become fast friends and take down all their enemies single-handed. All bend the knee to them both.
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Arya arrives at Winterfell and misses Jon, but her and little Lady Mormont become fast friends and take down all their enemies single-handed. All bend the knee to them both.
Roll Credits.

Presumably accompanied by the image of a dancing George RR Martin flashing the birds.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:48 PM   #2313
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That looks like Arias tragectory. There's some spoiler laden pre season photo s of her with one of little fingers possessions.
So why are you posting that here!?
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