American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS

[Drak]

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Not sure how to take this comment but it made me LOL so I thanked it.

Oh, I was making fun of all the dumb things you've been saying.

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by Drak

Gotta love the Boris Badenov/Godunov connection



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[Mr.Coffee]

Texas Flames Fan's "analysis" of oil and gas is hilarious. I don't even know where to start with it, it's such a mess.

It's like a grade 4 kid reciting their "research" project the class. Kind of adorable.

[wittynickname]

Getting away from Trump and the federal disasters looming on the horizon for a moment, Iowa's legislature is having an interesting night.

They were attempting to pass a 6 week "heartbeat bill" but they dropped that because it didn't have enough support. They're instead now attempting to pass a 20 week ban instead, and it was confirmed by said legislature that if a woman miscarried past 20 weeks, by this law, she would indeed have to carry a dead fetus to term. That is just completely inhumane treatment.

Also there's the fun part of one or both of these bills that allows parents to make decisions for their adult daughters if said daughter is unmarried and gets pregnant.




All of this is snagged from twitter, as the legislative session is currently ongoing. This is so incredibly infuriating.

EDIT: Actually, not ongoing, the bill just passed 11-8.

[FlameOn]

Apparently FBI Director James Comey was ready to reveal the existence investigation and details of some of the Trump-Russia connections in the summer of 2016, prior to the elections, but was ordered to hold off on the release of the information by Obama administration officials due to the politically sensitive nature. They felt that the information should be come from multiple agencies simultaneously. This delayed the news about the Trump investigation. Thanks Obama?

FBI Director James Comey attempted to go public as early as the summer of 2016 with information on Russia’s campaign to influence the U.S. presidential election, but Obama administration officials blocked him from doing so, two sources with knowledge of the matter tell Newsweek.

Well before the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence accused the Russian government of tampering with the U.S. election in an October 7 statement, Comey pitched the idea of writing an op-ed about the Russian campaign during a meeting in the White House’s situation room in June or July.

“He had a draft of it or an outline. He held up a piece of paper in a meeting and said, ‘I want to go forward, what do people think of this?’” says a source with knowledge of the meeting, which included Secretary of State John Kerry, Attorney General Loretta Lynch, Department of Homeland Security secretary Jeh Johnson and the national security adviser Susan Rice.

The other national security officials didn’t like the idea, and White House officials thought the announcement should be a coordinated message backed by multiple agencies, the source says. “An op-ed doesn’t have the same stature, it comes from one person.”

http://www.newsweek.com/fbi-director...lection-576417

BBC claims key elements of the Trump Russia dossier have now been verified. Countdown to Trump pee pee video?

The BBC has learned that US officials "verified" a key claim in a report about Kremlin involvement in Donald Trump's election - that a Russian diplomat in Washington was in fact a spy.

But last June, Steele began sending pages of what would later be called his dossier.
In light of his earlier work, the US intelligence community saw him as "credible" (their highest praise).
The FBI thought the same; they had worked with Steele going back to his days in MI6.
He flew to Rome in August to talk to the FBI. Then in early October, he came to the US and was extensively debriefed by them, over a week.
He gave the FBI the names of some of his informants, the so-called "key" to the dossier.
But the CIA never interviewed him, and never sought to.
This comes from several people who are in a position to know.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Getting away from Trump and the federal disasters looming on the horizon for a moment, Iowa's legislature is having an interesting night.

How stupid are the people of Iowa?
-Donny Littlehands Drumpf

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Getting away from Trump and the federal disasters looming on the horizon for a moment, Iowa's legislature is having an interesting night.

They were attempting to pass a 6 week "heartbeat bill" but they dropped that because it didn't have enough support. They're instead now attempting to pass a 20 week ban instead, and it was confirmed by said legislature that if a woman miscarried past 20 weeks, by this law, she would indeed have to carry a dead fetus to term. That is just completely inhumane treatment.

Also there's the fun part of one or both of these bills that allows parents to make decisions for their adult daughters if said daughter is unmarried and gets pregnant.



All of this is snagged from twitter, as the legislative session is currently ongoing. This is so incredibly infuriating.

EDIT: Actually, not ongoing, the bill just passed 11-8.

That can't actually be constitutional though, can it?

[Texas Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You could just save yourself some typing with the comment "I have no idea what I am talking about".

You know that Obama had nothing to do with the drop in rigs, right? And that oil production is not in a "death spiral". In fact, it is just off the peaks from 2015

http://marketrealist.com/2017/03/us-...r-1-year-high/

But lets not let facts get in the way of your alternate reality.

Ok, if you think that production will stay the same or magically increase with 75% less drilling for 18 months then sure. Guess we will have to wait to see if I'm right. I know where Im putting my money

I agree Obama does not phone in the Rigs, but heres a question, if USA is a net importer and somehow had too much oil how does that happen? If I have too much of something I import than thats my fault right? The Obama administration was responsible for importing oil from Opec correct? Just asking some 4th grade questions here.

[puffnstuff]

Paging This Post is Terrible

[calf]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Also there's the fun part of one or both of these bills that allows parents to make decisions for their adult daughters if said daughter is unmarried and gets pregnant.

You'd think the decision would be left with her father.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Ok, if you think that production will stay the same or magically increase with 75% less drilling for 18 months then sure. Guess we will have to wait to see if I'm right. I know where Im putting my money

I agree Obama does not phone in the Rigs, but heres a question, if USA is a net importer and somehow had too much oil how does that happen? If I have too much of something I import than thats my fault right? The Obama administration was responsible for importing oil from Opec correct? Just asking some 4th grade questions here.

Yes. The president calls the oil store and tells them how many oils they want to buy.

[Drak]

FYI, debate is taking place with a poster who says stuff like this:

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan View Post
Well should I listen to the POTUS or should I just listen to what Wolf Blitzer or Racheal Madow's opinion? Ill take my news right from the source thank you very much.

[Violator]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

You have to be purposely ignorant to believe the President had more to do with the decline in drilling than an epic collapse in oil prices. Canadian drilling declined by a similar percentage in 2014-15, all thanks to Obama...

Don't forget it was Notleys and the NDPs fault as well


This might have been posted already

Paul Ryan doesn't want Trump working with Democrats to fix Obamacare

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/pa...rticle/2618837

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Texas Flames Fan

Ok, if you think that production will stay the same or magically increase with 75% less drilling for 18 months then sure. Guess we will have to wait to see if I'm right. I know where Im putting my money

You do know the difference between drilling and production? So long as reserves are not depleted, production should remain stable without further drilling. You do understand that, right?

I agree Obama does not phone in the Rigs, but heres a question, if USA is a net importer and somehow had too much oil how does that happen? If I have too much of something I import than thats my fault right? The Obama administration was responsible for importing oil from Opec correct? Just asking some 4th grade questions here.

The United States purchases OPEC oil for many reasons. Do you know what the strategic petroleum reserve is? Do you know that the United States believes it is strategically best served importing oil and sitting on its reserves rather than exhausting its reserves and have nothing in times of crisis? You do understand these concepts?

[Thor]

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[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That can't actually be constitutional though, can it?

I would imagine so, but with Gorsuch likely being confirmed, the SCOTUS will already have a conservative majority, and god forbid RBG steps down or passes away while Trump is in office, then we'll have a 6-3 conservative majority and who knows what might happen with Roe v. Wade challenges at that point.

This is why it was so damn important to not vote Trump. This was always why it was so damn important to not vote Trump. SCOTUS appointees affect our country for many years well after the President who appointed them has left office.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by New Era

You do understand these concepts?

Pretty sure this specific question could be asked about literally any of the discussions he's started in this thread. And the answer would always be no.

[opendoor]

It's insane how politicized the judiciary is in the US. Do many people even know who nominated the various Supreme Court justices in Canada? Just looking it up and 6 of the 9 were nominated by Harper (and another by Mulroney) but I don't think anyone ever accuses the Supreme Court of having a conservative leaning. It's sad when you have to even worry about political parties stacking the courts with ideologues.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

I would imagine so, but with Gorsuch likely being confirmed, the SCOTUS will already have a conservative majority, and god forbid RBG steps down or passes away while Trump is in office, then we'll have a 6-3 conservative majority and who knows what might happen with Roe v. Wade challenges at that point.

This is why it was so damn important to not vote Trump. This was always why it was so damn important to not vote Trump. SCOTUS appointees affect our country for many years well after the President who appointed them has left office.

I don't think liberals should fear Gorsuch. In fact, I think he's relatively liberal. Dems would be silly to filibuster, but they need to play to the base so I suppose they will.