American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS (Archive)

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by GGG

Working class whites make up the uneducated white voting block that turned the election in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

The wealthier non college educated whites have never voted democrat

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ote-for-trump/

In short, it appears as though educational levels are#the#critical factor in predicting shifts in the vote between 2012 and 2016. You can come to that conclusion with a relatively simple analysis, like the one I’ve conducted above, or by using fancier methods. In a regression analysis at the county level, for instance, lower-income counties were no more likely to shift to Trump once you control for education levels.11#And although there’s more work to be done, these conclusions also appear to hold if you examine the data at a more granular level, like#by precinct#or among individual voters in panel surveys

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Yup still pretty clueless - there maybe some truth but she is certainly going about the wrong way. The oppression business has gone from, "I am superior! Let me oppress you to I am more oppressed than you, let me oppress you!" Same #### different generation.

Ugh, conversation and listening! How dare those dirty dems!

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by nik-

I think 6-7 seats is pretty significant lol.

That was my immediate reaction as well. Wouldn't currently swing the house, but still.

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Interestingly this is the same guy who gave Hillary a 98% chance of winning for the entire duration of the election cycle. Never once changed from his 98% prediction. Obviously he'd like that have that one back.

Yeah, but that's true of everyone. I basically said I'd bet $1000 on Hillary coming back to win on the night of the election after Virginia was called for her. Glad I didn't have to pay that one out...

Anyway, the resistance to the idea that a proportion of Trump voters were partly motivated to vote for him by their rejection of leftist hierarchies of presumed oppression, cultural appropriation and language games is pretty baffling, given how often the words "political correctness" came up during both the primaries and the general in Republican circles. Well, not that baffling, I guess.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Trump approval rating from Rasmussen on Jan 26: 59% approve, 41% disapprove
Trump approval rating from Rasmussen on Jan 31: 51% approve, 49% disapprove

I mean if he's falling apart in the pollster most favorable to him, his real approval numbers are probably quite ugly. He's certainly had the shortest honeymoon in political history.

[peter12]

Not downplaying gerrymandering, but I pointed out that swing for the reason you just cited - significant, but not enough to swing the House.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Trump approval rating from Rasmussen on Jan 26: 59% approve, 41% disapprove
Trump approval rating from Rasmussen on Jan 31: 51% approve, 49% disapprove

I mean if he's falling apart in the pollster most favorable to him, his real approval numbers are probably quite ugly. He's certainly had the shortest honeymoon in political history.

Biased, lying Rasmussen. Sad

[CaptainCrunch]

4 years of this thread, We're gonna need a whole new door for this one.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

That was my immediate reaction as well. Wouldn't currently swing the house, but still.

Yeah, but that's true of everyone. I basically said I'd bet $1000 on Hillary coming back to win on the night of the election after Virginia was called for her. Glad I didn't have to pay that one out...

Anyway, the resistance to the idea that a proportion of Trump voters were partly motivated to vote for him by their rejection of leftist hierarchies of presumed oppression, cultural appropriation and language games is pretty baffling, given how often the words "political correctness" came up during both the primaries and the general in Republican circles. Well, not that baffling, I guess.

6-7 seats could end being the margin for many of these cabinet confirmations.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Ugh, conversation and listening! How dare those dirty dems!

Discrimination and bigotry based on skin colour is illogical and ####ing stupid.

I am glad my Grandmothers white privileged enabled her to survive not only Nazi occupied Poland but even worse Russian occupied Poland.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Trump approval rating from Rasmussen on Jan 26: 59% approve, 41% disapprove
Trump approval rating from Rasmussen on Jan 31: 51% approve, 49% disapprove

I wonder, though, how much of this actually lands with him. I imagine the guy surrounding himself with people who will try to minimize the importance of anything that suggests he's unpopular and shift his focus to the people who support him in order to keep him happy. If you recall during the campaign when polls suggested he'd lose the popular vote, he said he couldn't understand how that could be considering the huge crowds that were coming to his rallies. This isn't a guy with a limited capacity for self-delusion.

[chemgear]

https://twitter.com/charesilver/stat...47357105491968

Reports from LA that US Marshals are refusing to enforce fed court orders against CBP. They've been instructed to take orders from US Atty.

Just spoke w/ an immigration atty in LA. Told me that no one is receiving service of process of 3 court orders that apply to LAX: NY, MA, LA

After a man was deported from LAX in defiance of the NY/MA court ordered stay, an LA court issued a TRO against the CBP/DHS

Now CBP/DHS in LAX have three court orders that it should be in compliance with, but no agency has acknowledged these orders.

[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Damn if only there was some way to try and get all people into some form of secondary schooling, like Universities, and Colleges, and Trade Schools...

I wonder if the Republicans have a solution?

It's not about getting everyone a post secondary education, or which party purports to be better about education. It's this singular issue, that one party consistently applies a blanket label to all white people with no care to their individual circumstances.

It doesn't change Trump being a terrible candidate, or any other factors in the election. I just believe that if the Democrats want to secure their midwest fortress again it might be something they should try to give some thought to and reign in. You can be inclusive to minorities without being exclusive to the majority at the same time.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Discrimination and bigotry based on skin colour is illogical and ####ing stupid.

I am glad my Grandmothers white privileged enabled her to survive not only Nazi occupied Poland but even worse Russian occupied Poland.

Damn it's almost like times change. Did you know that a Republican freed the slaves?

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Trump approval rating from Rasmussen on Jan 26: 59% approve, 41% disapprove
Trump approval rating from Rasmussen on Jan 31: 51% approve, 49% disapprove

I mean if he's falling apart in the pollster most favorable to him, his real approval numbers are probably quite ugly. He's certainly had the shortest honeymoon in political history.

I don't know if I'd read too much into that. His favorability ratings right now are still far higher than they were the day he got elected or at any point before:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...able-5493.html

[Lanny_McDonald]

Just to inject some reality back into this thread, Betsy DeVos got pas the Senate in a partisan vote. Education just went in the crapper.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Now CBP/DHS in LAX have three court orders that it should be in compliance with, but no agency has acknowledged these orders.

This is the rule of law collapsing. If it continues, that's the end of the country, period.

I'm not sure what would be worse: fighting between different law enforcement agencies as to whether they obey the courts or the executive, or the idea that there might very well BE no fighting because there isn't anyone who's willing to enforce court orders. Suddenly you have yourself a dictatorship.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

4 years of this thread, We're gonna need a whole new door for this one.

I don't think this thread is getting to 4 months before we need a replacement. It's averaging 190 posts a day at this point. That's probably unsustainable, but yeah it won't be long before this thing is too big and needs to be deleted for the server's sake.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Damn it's almost like times change. Did you know that a Republican freed the slaves?

???? Do you have a point

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by opendoor

I don't know if I'd read too much into that. His favorability ratings right now are still far higher than they were the day he got elected or at any point before:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...able-5493.html

Right but as someone already pointed out, it took the last 5 Presidents between 500 and 1500 days before they had a net negative approval in Gallup. Trump did it in 8.

[AltaGuy]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

...given how often the words "political correctness" came up during both the primaries and the general in Republican circles. Well, not that baffling, I guess.

lol... weird.

I get it when it is liberals criticizing other liberals - even if I don't understand your fixation with the topic - but the "way" political correctness is discussed in Republican circles means about as much as the way the Flames are discussed on HFOilers.

"Those damn libtards and their political correctness."