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Old 12-20-2014, 06:11 PM   #1
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Basically said we need to inject some more toughness into our line up after going on this 7 game losing streak.

Teams were terrified of playing Calgary last year with Mcgrattan & Westgarth in the lineup and aren't scared anymore.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:17 PM   #2
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Having watched almost every Flames game this season, have not seen any part of any game where they looked even slightly intimidated.

Don being Don. Dinosaur hockey is gone.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:18 PM   #3
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Oooohh. That's why we can't score. The opposition isn't scared!
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:20 PM   #4
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He is actually right
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I don't think they were terrified last season, that 4th line was pretty easy to play against if they were caught out there against the other teams' top line. And if it was an issue, why didn't Grapes bring it up 7 games ago?

They're not losing because teams aren't afraid of them, they're losing close games because the Flames offense has dried up and they are having a brain cramp or two a game that are costing them.
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I think there's some truth to it, but it's not why we're losing
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It's not just one factor as to why we are losing. I'd be surprised though if Don's theory isn't a contributing factor mind you. Given the offence has dried up, this team certainly isn't hard to play against, and they certainly don't intimidate or ware other teams down. I also thought it was very evident against New York that we were getting pushed around and players on the opposition were bing very physical against the likes of Gio with 0 push back from the Flames.

While ideally we'd have a skilled and physical line up top to bottom, we currently don't have that type of player, and I'd say this team could use some swagger and a little intimidation factor at this point that a McGrattan beat down could help provide.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:25 PM   #9
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Having watched almost every Flames game this season, have not seen any part of any game where they looked even slightly intimidated.

Don being Don. Dinosaur hockey is gone.
His point isn't that we are being intimidated, it's that we are no longer as tough to play against. So in a way he is right
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Having watched almost every Flames game this season, have not seen any part of any game where they looked even slightly intimidated.

Don being Don. Dinosaur hockey is gone.
That's only half the equation, and it wasn't the half he was referring to.

Cherry's point is that the opposition isn't intimidated. And I know some people will mis-interpret (or over-react), and assume he means Broad Street Bully intimidation. But that's not what he means.

He is referring to teams being able to play free and aggressively against the Flames. He is suggesting - and he's absolutely right - that when teams play with their heads up (for lack of a better description) they won't be as able to roll and score at will (like they are now).

He is saying you have to have some size physicality to slow the other team up a bit. And, despite the crowd that thinks it's archaic, I believe he is absolutely right.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:28 PM   #11
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Just how terrified were they if we ended up with the 4th worst record in the league? This is a fallacy.
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I'm just surprised that some people are still interested in what this irrelevant and confused dinosaur has to say.
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THis isn't some post I'm making trying to play Devil's Advocate, but I do think the lack of a "presence" is effecting things a little bit. There's certainly been a good share of instances where our guys are getting hurt with rough plays and little to no retaliation.

Bollig either needs to step up for his team mates when crap goes down or put McGrattan back in. At least you know he'll at least wander by the player who did something and let him know that's going to end badly or him if he does something like that again.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:30 PM   #14
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I'm just surprised that some people are still interested in what this irrelevant and confused dinosaur has to say.
Show just a little bit of respect. You don't have to agree with what he says but he is a big piece of Canadian Hockey history.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:30 PM   #15
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Having watched almost every Flames game this season, have not seen any part of any game where they looked even slightly intimidated.

Don being Don. Dinosaur hockey is gone.
Flames had zero push back against the Rangers, they dominated us physically. Not saying the Flames were "scared" but the Rangers beat up on us physically (in a legal fashion) and the Flames had no response. Given our make up, while I agree with you it would be much better to be able to play a physical game through our line up, we have almost zero players who do that. Until we do, the Flames might actually benefit from keeping other teams honest via the old way..........
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:32 PM   #16
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We need a bench clearing brawl to get this team back on track.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:33 PM   #17
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If Bollig was the player we thought he'd be, this wouldn't be an issue. I'm not even talking about fighting, or when other teams take liberties against guys Johnny. But you have to admit, right now teams are way too free to do whatever they want. But with guys who like to play a rougher style like Ferland, Smith, Poirier and Bennett in the pipeline, I'm not worried.
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Will our goon's beating the opposition goon give Johnny more room to wheel? No. When players take liberties with our stars, we need to push back in kind. We don't seem to have players who will do this. When a Kassian/Bieksa/Burrows hammers a Gaudreau/Hudler/Byron, someone needs to hammer a Sedin. It's as simple as that: if you take liberties with our best players, we will return the favor. You don't need goons to do that, just hard hitters.
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I've noticed this a few times before, but it seems we are far more likely to play the stick instead of the body on forechecking and back checks. Really wish they would make a point of making contact in these situations. I'll be watching for it a little closer tonight.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:42 PM   #20
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The Flames need more guys like Hunter Smith and Michael Ferland on their roster to address this.

Not goons, but physical guys.

Look at the Kings with guys like Dwight King and Jordan Nolan. They can play and be a pain. That's what Cherry is talking about.
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