Although he's a left shooting defenceman I would like to see us get Provorov. He sounds like a very responsible defenceman who is also leading all rookies in points in the WHL. Has played in NA for 4.5 seasons already so don't think there is any flight risk associated with him.
Problem is Button has him ranked at 8 and he seems to be gaining a lot of attention lately which could see him move up even further. The other rankings have him at 16+ so you never know? He plays in Regina a couple more times this year so am going to make an effort to go out and check this kid out, as well as update myself on Roy.
"He can even fight, something you should ask Joe Schuldt of Sioux Falls about. The two had quite the scrap last weekend at the USHL Atlantic Challenge in New Jersey, with Provorov more than holding his own despite being four years younger than his 20-year-old opponent."
Brandon Carlo - 6'5'' 203lbs right shooting defenceman
projected to go late 1st round or early 2nd, but his stock is rising. He is currently playing for the Americans top shutdown pairing at the WJC.
From an organizational need perspective he checks off many boxes for the Flames. However his offensive game is at the moment below the standards of Hanifin, Werenski, Roy, Provorov and Kylington.
October 9, 2014 – Tri-City @ Saskatoon (WHL) – D Brandon Carlo, Tri-City, 6-5, 205
“He’s an absolute monster out on the ice and skates extremely well for his size. His footwork is not perfect but definitely at a higher level than you would expect for someone who is 6’5 and over 200 pounds. He’s got a good powerful skating stride and displayed solid lateral mobility on a number of occasions including during some 1 on 1 defensive plays.
The other big thing I noticed about his game aside from skating is just how mean he is. Was constantly in player’s faces; chirping and talking trash. He also was a big fan of using his stick behind the play. Constantly poking player’s legs; slashing them. A borderline dirty player who has a very mean edge to his game.
His game is not limited to being a defensive player only. He was very involved in the play – especially early – looking to jump up into the rush and push the pace. He passed the puck well all night and showed off a very hard shot on a couple of occasions. With that hard shot he did a good job getting himself into shooting position while also showing the ability to handle the puck in such a way to give himself space to shoot it. He’s got good offensive instincts to go with his skating and snarl.
He did have some miscues in the game though. I noticed one bad play with the puck and it came as he blindly threw it up the middle, resulting in a scoring chance against. There was also a play in the second period where he tried to dangle across the offensive blueline with his head down and got absolutely lit up.
He played roughly 22-24 minutes, I would guess, seeing time on the second PP unit while also killing penalties. Wore an “A” as an alternate Captain. Overall, I love his upside. While he does rely a lot on his size and strength at this level, I think he has the tools to still “play the game” at the next level. His size and skating combo is rare and coveted by NHL teams. Not only that, but I think that combination will allow him to play at the NHL level sooner than most players drafted in his same range.
I would fully expect some teams have him rated as a top 20 player in this draft and I would say he’s an easy top 40 selection for me at this point in time.” – Cody Nickolet
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Although he's a left shooting defenceman I would like to see us get Provorov. He sounds like a very responsible defenceman who is also leading all rookies in points in the WHL. Has played in NA for 4.5 seasons already so don't think there is any flight risk associated with him.
Problem is Button has him ranked at 8 and he seems to be gaining a lot of attention lately which could see him move up even further. The other rankings have him at 16+ so you never know? He plays in Regina a couple more times this year so am going to make an effort to go out and check this kid out, as well as update myself on Roy.
"He can even fight, something you should ask Joe Schuldt of Sioux Falls about. The two had quite the scrap last weekend at the USHL Atlantic Challenge in New Jersey, with Provorov more than holding his own despite being four years younger than his 20-year-old opponent."
The fact he has moved up so much means Edmonton will take him if they cant nab McDavid. I can see MacT's logic now, If the season was longer this guy would have gone top 3.
Really impressed with Mikko Rantanen at the WJC tourney.
(Goal at the 1:00 mark)
Depending on where we finish he might be a solid pick with our first. I'm assuming we'll be looking intently at the best available defensmen but a big (6'4, 210lbs at 18) gifted RW like Rantanen might be a good addition also.
Mitch Marner has to be moving right up behind the big 2 over the past 2 months and might be a guy to push Hanifin down a bit. He now has 72 points in his last 27 games for 2.66 pts/game. Outside of McDavid, that's as high a mark as I have seen a player put up in the CHL in his draft year in a long time. That is almost a full point per game higher than Bennett and Reinhart last year. He has been held off the score sheet once since Oct 24 2014.
He has 12 pts in the 3 games since Max Domi left for the WJHC.
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Born: July 19th 1997 (17) Height: 6"2 Weight: 190 lbs Shoots: Left Position: D
This year at Michigan
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Werenski is a two way defenceman who's one of the smartest in the draft. Is a very smooth skater and has some great offensive tools. Knows when to jump in the rush. He's a great sick handler. Great breakout passer. Has a good shot. Active stick on D. Very aware in the neutral zone. Pretty elusive and can find holes in the D on offence yet closes holes on D. Not very aggressive but his smarts and his size is top class.
Daniel Sprong
Born: March 17th 1997 (17) Height: 5"10 Weight: 177 lbs Shoots: Right Position: RW
Gaudreau and Sprong with Bennett in the middle would be amazing. Sprong is so explosive. Very fast and has a quick release on his shot. He's very strong for his size. His work ethic is unreal and he will get dirty in the corner and block shots. His offensive output is one of the best in his class.He's the type of player that controls the speed of the game and you notice every time you step on the ice.
Jeremy Roy
Born: May 14th 1997 (17) Height: 6"0 Weight: 182 lbs Shoots: Right Position: D
Roy is more offensive but defensive but still is great on both ends. He is the one of if not the best passer for a defence-man this year. His passes are crisp and can thread the needle. He has great vision. He will QB the PP. He finds ways to get pucks on net. He has a strong stick defensively and is very smart. He is pretty strong for his age. Great skater as well.
Mikko Rantanen
Born: October 29th 1996 (18) Height: 6"2 Weight: 180 lbs Shoots: Left Position: RW
Rantanen isn't that flashy. He's very strong and mature for his age though. He's already playing in a men's league. He's strong in all three zones. Very hard worker. Good skater. When is game is on top he is very hard to stop and takes control of the game. Protects the puck well and plays the cycle game very well. He has a very high "Ice Q". He finds the open ice well and will attack the net.
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6'2 200
Shoots: R
Nation: Canada
Ranked #28 by ISS
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A smooth skating defenceman who can put up points, utilizing his strength behind his shot, and plays with an edge. Has very good awareness on the ice, and notices possible scoring chances before they happen. Very intelligent defensively and makes high percentage decisions in his own end. When at the top of his game, Nicolas Meloche can be a game-changing, physical two-way defenceman.
sounds good to me, anyone seen this guy in action ?
Born: July 19th 1997 (17) Height: 6"2 Weight: 190 lbs Shoots: Left Position: D
This year at Michigan
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Werenski is a two way defenceman who's one of the smartest in the draft. Is a very smooth skater and has some great offensive tools. Knows when to jump in the rush. He's a great sick handler. Great breakout passer. Has a good shot. Active stick on D. Very aware in the neutral zone. Pretty elusive and can find holes in the D on offence yet closes holes on D. Not very aggressive but his smarts and his size is top class.
Daniel Sprong
Born: March 17th 1997 (17) Height: 5"10 Weight: 177 lbs Shoots: Right Position: RW
Gaudreau and Sprong with Bennett in the middle would be amazing. Sprong is so explosive. Very fast and has a quick release on his shot. He's very strong for his size. His work ethic is unreal and he will get dirty in the corner and block shots. His offensive output is one of the best in his class.He's the type of player that controls the speed of the game and you notice every time you step on the ice.
Jeremy Roy
Born: May 14th 1997 (17) Height: 6"0 Weight: 182 lbs Shoots: Right Position: D
Roy is more offensive but defensive but still is great on both ends. He is the one of if not the best passer for a defence-man this year. His passes are crisp and can thread the needle. He has great vision. He will QB the PP. He finds ways to get pucks on net. He has a strong stick defensively and is very smart. He is pretty strong for his age. Great skater as well.
Mikko Rantanen
Born: October 29th 1996 (18) Height: 6"2 Weight: 180 lbs Shoots: Left Position: RW
Rantanen isn't that flashy. He's very strong and mature for his age though. He's already playing in a men's league. He's strong in all three zones. Very hard worker. Good skater. When is game is on top he is very hard to stop and takes control of the game. Protects the puck well and plays the cycle game very well. He has a very high "Ice Q". He finds the open ice well and will attack the net.
Good post! Some of your height/weight stats appear to be out of date. For instance, Daniel Sprong is now listed at 6 ft. and 193 lbs. on his team's website.
1. McDavid
2. Eichel (interchangeable with McDavid at this point)
3. Marner
4. Hanifin
5. Strome
6. Kylington
7. Provorov
8. Barzal
9. Werenski
10. Zacha
11. Merkley
12. Roy
These are all players that I wouldn't mind the Flames selecting. I know it's weird having Hanifin at 4, but you cannot deny what Marner is doing. Almost any other year, he would've rocketed up to #1.
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^ Zacha's a little low for my taste but it's your take on it. Hanifin is #3 for me but again, it's your list.
That whole group from 7-10 are completely interchangeable based off of the need of the team. Also, Hanifin didn't drop because of his play, Marner has been unreal in the OHL this year.
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^ Yep, I think after McDavid and Eichel, you pick by what your team needs because of how close it is from 3-10.
It's only the midterm, so we'll see if some come on top of the others. Marner is certainly making a case for himself. For the Flames, where we are drafting, I think I am set on us picking Jeremy Roy.
There seem to be some people, albeit a minority view, that believe Sprong could have top 5 talent. Assuming that we are drafting later than the top 10. he is one that I would definitely take a gamble on.
He is kind of like this year's Fabbri, in the sense that he seems to be ranked all over the place. Craig Button had him in his top 5 back in October. He has since fallen to 13.
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No.
That right there is the problem with this tournament. While a poor performance at it can raise a red flag, a great performance is often misleading.
This is a tournament where Jeff Glass was stellar. Justin Pogge even more so. A tournament where Andrey Makarov was better than Andrei Vasilevski. And that's just talking about goaltenders.
Danny Syvret looked good at this tourney. Jeremy Colliton. Nigel Dawes. Matt Halischuk. They outplayed and outproduced other players who have gone on to have far better careers.
A short tournament like this is too small a sample size. It's painfully easy for unlikely heroes to emerge. Hot streak, good linemates, easy opponents, etc. For goalies it's even easier. Just play for a good team and do your job (like Glass) or play for a really bad one and have the game of your life keeping your team in it (Godla).
Running around signing guys who had a good game or two at this tournament would be such an Edmonton thing to do. Like trying to sign Tkachev after he had a decent training camp (and trying to call him Vladdy Hockey). And then trading a decent player for a late 1st in order to draft him next year after not reading the rules the first time around.
Glad Treliving and the scouts are better than this, and smart hockey fans should be too. Don't get too wrapped up in this tournament. It's not as meaningful as TSN would have you believe.
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