06-23-2017, 11:07 AM
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by SofaProfessor
DeAngelo is a pretty highly touted young defence prospect, is he not? Is there more than one DeAngelo there?
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Might have mixed up players. Maybe it's a closer deal than I thought at first glance.
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06-23-2017, 11:07 AM
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#42
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Looking forward to watching a highly mobile/athletic goalie again instead of just a big guy between the pipes.
Hell of a lot younger too. Very Kiprusoff-esque in style
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06-23-2017, 11:08 AM
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#43
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
It would be difficult to argue that Smith is superior to Raanta at this point in their careers.
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Smith played in +26 games and faced more than twice as many shots on goal than did Raanta last year. The difference in their SP is 0.08, but Smith played on a team that faced +4 more shots than NYR every night.
Raanta is an unknown commodity; it remains to be seen if he is even a starting goaltender.
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06-23-2017, 11:09 AM
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#44
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow
Looking forward to watching a highly mobile/athletic goalie again instead of just a big guy between the pipes.
Hell of a lot younger too. Very Kiprusoff-esque in style
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So what you are saying is Mike Smith, is just a big guy between the pipes?
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06-23-2017, 11:10 AM
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#45
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow
Looking forward to watching a highly mobile/athletic goalie again instead of just a big guy between the pipes.
Hell of a lot younger too. Very Kiprusoff-esque in style
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Good luck with that.
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06-23-2017, 11:11 AM
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#46
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Since1984
So what you are saying is Mike Smith, is just a big guy between the pipes?
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Last year, not so much. He seemed more comfortable recovering from his knee issue. Previous years? Yes.
Which isn't a bad thing.. but it's more fun as a fan to watch a guy like Raanta, in my opinion.
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06-23-2017, 11:11 AM
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#47
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by automaton 3
Its Anthony DeAngelo, D man. Drafted 19th overall in 2014.
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Was thinking Anthony Duclair for some reason.
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06-23-2017, 11:11 AM
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#48
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess
Good luck with that.
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Ditto. Smith is another knee injury away from his career being over.
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06-23-2017, 11:11 AM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Coyotes win this one pretty handily, IMO. A 7th overall in a weak draft and a declining young forward for a starting goalie and a top-six center? Come on.
Flames could have probably had Raanta for the 16th. I would've pulled the trigger on that if I was Treliving.
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Who has never been a starter
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06-23-2017, 11:13 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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A 7th OA pick is generally a top 6/top 4 player that is going to give your team 7-10 years at a below market contract.
So from that standpoint, it seems like a high acquisition cost for a 6.5m cap hit player who is in (or even past) his prime years and a goalie who hits UFA next year.
That said, Arizona starts to look quite competitive all of a sudden.
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06-23-2017, 11:16 AM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by kingkahuna
Glad we stayed away at that cost
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I was thinking the same thing, 7th overall? I cant even imagine what they must have been asking from us.
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06-23-2017, 11:18 AM
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#52
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Who has never been a starter
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Because he was stuck behind Henrik Lundqvist. Where you saying the same thing about Talbot?
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06-23-2017, 11:19 AM
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#53
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Jeez, the 'Yotes are acting like me in the CPHL. Endless deals
Craig Morgan @craigsmorgan 24s25 seconds ago
And still, I do not believe the Coyotes are finished dealing.
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06-23-2017, 11:20 AM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Am I the only one who thinks that Raanta is pretty average?
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If Raanta plays average as a starter - that is if he has a league average save percentage and starts 55+ games - that will be an absolute slam dunk win for them.
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06-23-2017, 11:22 AM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Because he was stuck behind Henrik Lundqvist. Where you saying the same thing about Talbot?
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Thats one of the few things that the Rangers have had going their way, they've been developing good goalies who get stuck behind Lundquist and then they turn around and turn those goalies into assets.
Must be nice. Bastards.
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06-23-2017, 11:22 AM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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DeAngelo traded again. I don't think he is well-liked in this league.
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06-23-2017, 11:23 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Yeah smart moves from the Coyotes IMO
Understand you don't wait until after a players ELCs are over to try to be good - need to win when your young players are on ELCs.
7th overall and DeAngelo isn't a cheap price to pay but it's worth it to get out of a never ending rebuild and for your two most important positions (C & G)
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 06-23-2017 at 11:44 AM.
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06-23-2017, 11:24 AM
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#58
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
DeAngelo traded again. I don't think he is well-liked in this league.
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Yep the rumoured attitude issues may have some basis in fact
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06-23-2017, 11:24 AM
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#59
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Because he was stuck behind Henrik Lundqvist. Where you saying the same thing about Talbot?
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Talbot looked quite a bit better in NYR in his two years there than did Raanta. In a day and age when the trend in goaltending is towards size, there is a pretty big risk here that he will not manage well with a starter's load of games. How many starting goalies under 6'2" are there in the NHL?
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06-23-2017, 11:25 AM
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#60
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Because he was stuck behind Henrik Lundqvist. Where you saying the same thing about Talbot?
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For every Talbot there are many guys who don't turn out...until someone proves they are a legit NHL starter they aren't
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